Conversation 013-010

TapeTape 13StartTuesday, October 26, 1971 at 11:37 AMEndTuesday, October 26, 1971 at 11:42 AMTape start time00:16:14Tape end time00:21:10ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Rogers, William P.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone

On October 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers talked on the telephone from 11:37 am to 11:42 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-010 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 13-10

Date: October 26, 1971
Time: 11:37 am - 11:42 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with William P. Rogers.

     United Nations [UN] vote on Taiwan
          -US support
               -Ronald W. Reagan's previous call to President


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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)



                     -The President’s view
                     -Proclamation
               -Public opinion
          -Rogers’ forthcoming press conference on vote on PRC
               -Statement
               -Financing
                     -Possible questions
                     -Congressional support
               -US reaction
          -Vote

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I think it's important to go too far in indicating all-out support of the UN and that we mustn't cut the budget and all that sort of thing.
Let me say that I, for example, just had a call from Reagan, California, and
uh you know he's been out there and so forth and uh and uh as you can imagine they there's their strong feeling that we just shouldn't uh as he said he saw these he said that these uh and he says here the united states is going to submit its fate to that and so forth and so on and
And, you know, but that's typical of a reaction, which is probably quite strong.
And I just think that the, I know it's a very delicate line, but I, and I know that some of the senators and so forth and so on, but I feel that, I think the disillusionment with the UN is so great that I don't think we should go as well.
He's got to grin and bear it, and we're just going to go all out and support the U.N. and so forth.
Reagan, as a matter of fact, he's really going a lot.
He signed a proclamation for U.N. week, and he's going to rescind it today.
Yes, sir.
I think I agree with you.
It's a problem.
Let me say, I just don't want...
But put it this way, I don't want you to get in a position, you personally to get in a position of being too, you know, sort of taken.
And I realize, on the other hand, we've got the damn Peking thing, but I don't think kicking the U.N. around is too much.
But go ahead, go ahead.
I've got a moment.
Yeah, just a moment.
Sure, sure.
The United States welcomes last night's decision to admit the People's Republic of China as a member of the United Nations.
President Nixon hopes that this action, which will bring into the United Nations the representatives of more than 700 million people, will result in the reduction of tensions in the Pacific area.
At the same time, the United States deeply regrets the action taken by the United Nations to deprive the Republic of China of representation in that organization.
We think that the precedent which has the effect of expelling 14 million people on Taiwan from representation in the UN is an unfortunate precedent which may have serious repercussions in the future.
We and our co-sponsors made an all-out effort to prevent the expulsion of the Republic of China.
We're particularly grateful to all of our co-sponsors for the very dedicated and determined effort which is made to retain a place for the Republic of China in the United Nations.
The Republic of China, of course, continues to be a respected and valued member of the international community, and the ties between us remain unaffected by the action of the United Nations.
Although we are disappointed at the outcome of the voting expelling the Republic of China, the United States recognizes the will of the majority of United Nations members who have been expressed, and we, of course, accept that decision.
We hope that the United Nations will not have been weakened by what it has done.
We continue to believe in its principles and purposes and will continue to strive to make it more effective in the pursuit of peace and justice in the world.
that would be the statement now they'll ask me about the financing i thought that i would say that we think that the united nations should take a good hard look at the financing uh i would simply i think you could say well uh i i let me just be very candid i'd say that this vote i mean this as a result of this and
and and some other actions of the united states support for the united nations is frankly an all-time low and god damn it it ought to be said yeah it's in the congress and it is i mean despite what these jerk senators said it is it is very low and that we're going to have very serious difficulties in getting adequate financing for the united nations
put it that way.
I think that's very certain.
I think when you say, too, that the
That's good.
I'd certainly indicate that from the reports from the Congress that we've had, that we're going to have very serious problems in getting adequate support for the United Nations and its agencies.
Just leave it there.
I mean, that doesn't put you in that spot, but you're just reflecting what the truth is.
I just don't want us to appear piqued, that's all.
But I think that...
I know we don't want to appear piqued.
The only problem is, I guess, we got with our right-wing people is that, well, and a lot of other people, they see...
I just don't like to see the United States being pulled and hauled by a bunch of small countries.
That's what's really involved here, you know.
They think, what the hell, we've done all this thing, now why do we get kicked around?
That's what we've done.
It isn't just this issue, it's the others.
Anyway, I think that's a good statement.
All right, I'll keep this in mind.
I'm not going to defend the goddamn organization.
Okay, do your best.
Okay, thanks.