{"conversationCode":"013-014","tapeNumber":13,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-013-014","startDateTime":"1971-10-26T17:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-26T17:51:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Oct-1971","startTime":"1:50 PM","endDate":"26-Oct-1971","endTime":"1:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.;","description":"On October 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers talked on the telephone from 1:50 pm to 1:51 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-014 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 013-014\n\nDate: October 26, 1971\nTime: 1:50 pm - 1:51 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with William P. Rogers.\n\n     Rogers’ forthcoming call to Reagan\n         -Rogers’ statement on United Nations [UN] vote on Taiwan\n         -Chiang Kai-shek\n                -Previous visit with Reagan","filename":["013-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:27:54","tapeEnd":"00:28:12","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rogers, William P."],"prevCode":"013-013","nextCode":"013-015","transcript":[{"start":0.67,"end":1.31,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.33,"end":2.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.44,"end":8.95,"text":"Just be sure to read him that portion of your statement where we still consider them a member of the international community."},{"start":9.17,"end":9.69,"text":"Sure."},{"start":9.71,"end":10.49,"text":"And support him."},{"start":10.51,"end":14.16,"text":"You see, he's just been to see Chiang Kai-shek and was greatly impressed and all that."},{"start":14.18,"end":15.36,"text":"He's sort of..."},{"start":15.38,"end":15.6,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":15.82,"end":17.36,"text":"Fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Secretary of State William P. Rogers to emphasize during an upcoming call with Governor Ronald Reagan that the United States remains committed to recognizing Taiwan as a member of the international community. The President highlights that Reagan was recently impressed by a meeting with Chiang Kai-shek and seeks to ensure the Secretary's public stance on the impending United Nations vote aligns with this support. This guidance serves to manage Reagan's potential reaction to shifts in U.S. policy regarding Taiwan's status at the UN.","topics":["Taiwan","United Nations","Ronald Reagan","William P. Rogers","Chiang Kai-shek","Foreign Policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:43:19.591Z"},"topicSlugs":["taiwan","united-nations","ronald-reagan","william-p-rogers","chiang-kai-shek","foreign-policy"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"013-014.mp3","bytes":431959,"durationSec":17.94,"bitrate":192640,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.041Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/013-014.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-014","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/13/conversation-013-014","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}