{"conversationCode":"013-018","tapeNumber":13,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-013-018","startDateTime":"1971-10-27T00:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-27T00:07:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Oct-1971","startTime":"8:01 PM","endDate":"26-Oct-1971","endTime":"8:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On October 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 8:01 pm to 8:07 pm. 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Bush\n          -Peoples Republic of China [PRC]\n          -President's forthcoming trip\n          -Vote in UN\n          -Possible US reaction\n                -Bush\n                -John N. Mitchell's view\n                -Reagan\n                -Buckley\n\n     Supreme Court\n\n     UN vote on Taiwan\n         -William P. Rogers previous press conference\n               -The President’s view\n         -Rogers’ statement after vote\n         -Reagan\n               -Mitchell","filename":["013-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:30:32","tapeEnd":"00:36:30","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"013-017","nextCode":"013-019","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":6.08,"text":"Well, I got Henry out."},{"start":6.58,"end":7.34,"text":"I got him to bed."},{"start":8.98,"end":10.79,"text":"He's in pretty good spirits, isn't he?"},{"start":10.81,"end":11.07,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":11.09,"end":11.81,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":11.83,"end":13.33,"text":"Did he call Reagan?"},{"start":13.35,"end":27.59,"text":"Yeah, he called him, and he's going to call him again tomorrow."},{"start":27.61,"end":27.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":31.22,"end":43.12,"text":"We're on the course."},{"start":44.32,"end":44.8,"text":"Let's follow it through."},{"start":58.12,"end":78.78,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":78.8,"end":79.8,"text":"And they were really going to cut their water off."},{"start":79.82,"end":83.88,"text":"The main thing was that Kip, which was, well, Joe Henry, but I think, too, it's important to say that he was really pretty disgusted by those who voted against us, not because of this, this, this attack."},{"start":83.9,"end":84.2,"text":"They, you know."},{"start":84.22,"end":84.54,"text":"Don't you agree?"},{"start":84.56,"end":84.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.02,"end":113.09,"text":"He's tired."},{"start":113.11,"end":114.34,"text":"I'm sure he doesn't feel that he's doing very well with that."},{"start":114.36,"end":114.44,"text":"Yes."},{"start":114.46,"end":115.1,"text":"He's doing a ton easier overall."},{"start":115.12,"end":115.36,"text":"Encouraging."},{"start":115.38,"end":116.3,"text":"Well, it's going to be a hell of a tough trip."},{"start":116.32,"end":116.42,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":121.92,"end":142.57,"text":"But I think all of that will tend to ."},{"start":142.59,"end":142.89,"text":"It sure is."},{"start":142.91,"end":149.98,"text":"It's the goddamn thing we can do in this UN."},{"start":150,"end":151.64,"text":"We can't just throw off the UN rather than us."},{"start":152.04,"end":169.73,"text":"No."},{"start":169.75,"end":170.35,"text":"Do you want me to have a talk?"},{"start":170.37,"end":170.61,"text":"No, I don't."},{"start":170.63,"end":171.49,"text":"And nobody else seems to have a good point."},{"start":171.51,"end":172.13,"text":"There really isn't any other..."},{"start":172.15,"end":172.98,"text":"I don't know if I should draft this over."},{"start":173,"end":173.9,"text":"There really isn't any other way to take Bob."},{"start":185.01,"end":197.29,"text":"But you'll see."},{"start":197.31,"end":197.53,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":199.47,"end":205.38,"text":"That, I think, like Mitchell felt that just doing that at this point was all you should do."},{"start":205.4,"end":207.74,"text":"And you get a little feel of what the reaction is."},{"start":207.76,"end":207.88,"text":"Right."},{"start":208.94,"end":238.07,"text":"that may be covered because you've got"},{"start":239.93,"end":266.36,"text":"They've got so much other stuff that they didn't look to what they've gained."},{"start":266.38,"end":266.96,"text":"An awful lot, too, of course."},{"start":271.5,"end":291.8,"text":"I think Roger did well."},{"start":291.82,"end":292.16,"text":"I think so, yeah."},{"start":292.18,"end":292.72,"text":"I think he did pretty well."},{"start":292.74,"end":293.14,"text":"It was a tragic day."},{"start":293.16,"end":293.26,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":293.28,"end":294.98,"text":"I can't expect him to say, well, we're going to cut off, and we're going to hit them."},{"start":295,"end":295.36,"text":"He can't say that."},{"start":296.78,"end":319.74,"text":"No, but he purposely, as he said, tried to make the, get the point, but we weren't sure."},{"start":319.76,"end":319.86,"text":"Okay."},{"start":319.88,"end":320.32,"text":"The Reagan thing is..."},{"start":321.3,"end":344.62,"text":"The problem is the fact that we've got to keep him from, you know, jumping off the reservation."},{"start":344.64,"end":344.99,"text":"I don't know why."},{"start":345.01,"end":346.03,"text":"I think that Mitchell should be able to help there."},{"start":346.05,"end":346.23,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":346.25,"end":346.51,"text":"That's right."},{"start":346.53,"end":347.49,"text":"Reagan can't go anyplace with this coming along."},{"start":347.51,"end":347.85,"text":"He can't get out."},{"start":347.87,"end":348.45,"text":"He's dressed a lot of people."},{"start":348.47,"end":349.59,"text":"I don't know if Mitchell has any other thoughts on that."},{"start":349.61,"end":349.71,"text":"Nope."},{"start":349.73,"end":350.29,"text":"He wanted to think about it."},{"start":352.89,"end":358.21,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. 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