Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 013-020 Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1971 at 12:23 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-020 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Hello. [0:01] Patricia, Mr. President. [7:29] I was going to say this. [7:31] One thing about the, you know, on the Jetstar plane, I think it would, I don't want to get an impression, you know, the presses, I think we've just done a little checking, and maybe, no. [7:47] I'm sorry. [7:48] The press does a little checking into seeing how much we use them and so forth and so on. [7:53] And, of course, as you know, we have it set up so that you can use them. [7:58] I would think that you probably ought to maybe be careful [8:10] I would say about every three weeks is probably it. [8:15] Then can we take commercial planes instead? [8:17] Oh, you can always take commercial planes. [8:19] No problem on that. [8:21] But the point is, you see, when the Jetstar goes, the problem that we have to be concerned about is the crew and all the rest. [8:28] We limit that. [8:30] I mean, we have very tight control, and Hughes is really great on it. [8:34] The problem that I had, and I just thought of it when both of you and Julie were there yesterday, and fortunately nothing came out of it, is that one of these press people may pick up the fact, well now look here, how often are the planes used and I don't want to do it. [8:50] Now actually what we do, we pick up the check on the [8:55] on the commercial first class fare anyway here my point is anytime you can anytime you come on a commercial plane is fine that's easy very easy you can do that and it's not bad you know in other words you get the damn shuttle and come down the jet star it isn't that you shouldn't use it but i think that i think if uh about once every three weeks [9:17] There'd be no problem, whatever, because then you could say, well, I had to come down because of various, you know, various problems you had to work on, so forth and so on. [9:26] And then the main thing is just don't, we don't want to give our enemies anything to work on. [9:31] There's nothing that's developed yet. [9:33] I was talking to Hughes a little and I just said, now look, anybody ask any questions? [9:37] Yeah, he says, but we fend them off. [9:39] But do you know what I mean? [9:40] No. [9:40] And I've told Julie the same thing. [9:43] Of course, she has further come, but she wouldn't use it. [9:46] She said, well, we have about every two weeks, every three weeks, as I said. [9:52] And that doesn't mean, when there's anything, for example, we're having, you just come. [9:57] And come on Jetstar. [9:59] If, on the other hand, you're just coming down, [10:01] I would try to work it out so that you do that on that basis. [10:08] Can you do that? [10:09] That makes a lot of sense. [10:10] And it just avoids the problem. [10:12] And then when you come on commercial, heck, just take the commercial plane and come down, pick up a car. [10:17] It's not bad, too. [10:18] I mean, it probably saves a lot of time. [10:20] Secret Service can get you a good seat and all that. [10:24] Right. [10:25] Oh, that's fine with us. [10:26] Yeah. [10:27] But I would use the Jet Star on it, like when you're coming in and so forth.