{"conversationCode":"013-044","tapeNumber":13,"conversationNumber":44,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-013-044","startDateTime":"1971-10-29T23:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-30T00:01:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Oct-1971","startTime":"7:59 PM","endDate":"29-Oct-1971","endTime":"8:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On October 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 7:59 pm to 8:01 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-044 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 013-044\n\nDate: October 29, 1971\nTime: 7:59 pm - 8:01 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Request for a call to Henry A. Kissinger\n\nThe President talked with Kissinger between 8:00 pm and 8:01 pm.\n\n     Senate votes on foreign aid program\n          -White House response\n                -Hugh Scott, Clark MacGregor\n                      -Calls from Kissinger","filename":["013-044.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:32:05","tapeEnd":"01:34:13","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"013-043","nextCode":"013-045","transcript":[{"start":0.22,"end":4.98,"text":"Dr. Kistler."},{"start":47.85,"end":48.82,"text":"Henry?"},{"start":48.84,"end":49.78,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":49.8,"end":63.71,"text":"I think that it would be well that you'll have to lead, you'll have to back us up on this to check our, to tell Scott what we're saying."},{"start":63.73,"end":63.85,"text":"Right."},{"start":63.87,"end":64.76,"text":"And also be sure McGregor knows."},{"start":64.78,"end":66.2,"text":"I'll get McGregor and Scott on the phone right away."},{"start":66.22,"end":66.34,"text":"Right."},{"start":66.36,"end":66.46,"text":"Good."},{"start":66.48,"end":66.58,"text":"Okay."},{"start":66.6,"end":69.41,"text":"Let me know I'm here."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed Henry Kissinger to coordinate with Senate Republican Leader Hugh Scott and legislative aide Clark MacGregor regarding the administration's response to an impending Senate vote on the foreign aid program. Kissinger was instructed to ensure both men were aligned with the White House's messaging strategy. He agreed to contact Scott and MacGregor immediately to finalize these efforts.","topics":["Foreign aid","Senate","Legislative strategy","Hugh Scott","Clark MacGregor","Executive coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:46:00.913Z"},"topicSlugs":["foreign-aid","senate","legislative-strategy","hugh-scott","clark-macgregor","executive-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":69,"audioFiles":[{"file":"013-044.mp3","bytes":1666402,"durationSec":69.36,"bitrate":192197,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.041Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/013-044.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-044","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/013/conversation-013-044","catalogNaId":417190303,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417190303","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}