Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 013-056
Date: Monday, November 1, 1971 at 2:47 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-056

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[0:01] Yes, sir.
[0:02] Byron.
[0:03] After I finish with Laird today at about 4 o'clock, I think we'll work it out probably so that he can come over and give a little shot on the defense aspects of foreign aid.
[0:20] Right.
[0:21] Great.
[0:21] That might be a good thing to do.
[0:22] And then we'll try to, if we can get Rogers, we can get him to do the same thing tomorrow after I meet with him.
[0:27] Now, for the picture thing, I'm going to meet in the AOB.
[0:31] It occurred to me that I'll give you a ring when we finish.
[0:34] All righty.
[0:35] And you could have them step out, and they can take Laird and Kissinger and me walking down the steps.
[0:40] All right, fine.
[0:41] How would that be?
[0:42] That's great.
[0:42] Give you a different kind of a shot.
[0:43] That's good.
[0:44] Instead of just sitting in the Oval Office.
[0:45] Fine.
[0:46] Okay, sir.
[0:47] How'd you get along with your boys?
[0:49] Fine.
[0:49] We hit the need for balanced, integrated, you know, foreign assistance program that indicated that...
[0:55] You know, was he underpinning a foreign policy and should not be unilaterally and suddenly stripped away, that it would affect, as we move into an era of negotiations.
[1:05] The thing that I think is very important here is that the idea that the whole key to the success of reducing Americans abroad is to have foreign aid.
[1:18] Right.
[1:18] And that's the whole key to the Nixon Doctrine.
[1:21] We're bringing men home, but we're helping others help themselves.
[1:24] Right.
[1:24] so that he can hit.
[1:26] That's a good theme for him.
[1:27] Yes, sir.
[1:27] I think it's an excellent one for him, Dan.
[1:29] I said that we thought the Senate would now pause and take a deep breath and look at the ramifications of the action that restored a coordinated foreign aid program, which is, I think, what they're doing today.
[1:39] That's sort of the theme that's beginning to come out of it.
[1:41] Right.
[1:41] Yes, sir.
[1:42] You watch this turnaround this week.
[1:43] Oh, absolutely.
[1:44] It's already starting.
[1:45] They can't stay on that wicket.
[1:47] They know it.
[1:48] They'll squeal over it.
[1:48] They have to have something to jump up and down about.
[1:51] Now they've gotten their little blood and
[1:53] So they'll have to come back and act like men again.
[1:55] Right.
[1:57] But I think the more pressure we keep on them, the better.
[1:59] That's where I think Laird's going.
[2:00] Are you going to announce Mrs. Nixon's thing at 4 o'clock?
[2:02] Yes, sir.
[2:03] Good.
[2:04] Fine.
[2:05] All right.
[2:06] Okay, sir.
[2:07] Oh, if they ask, are there going to be any other countries, and they say, well, not at this time.
[2:10] We have no plans.
[2:11] Okay, fine.
[2:12] Fine.
[2:13] Okay, sir.