{"conversationCode":"013-058","tapeNumber":13,"conversationNumber":58,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-013-058","startDateTime":"1971-11-01T20:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-01T20:56:00.000Z","startDate":"1-Nov-1971","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"1-Nov-1971","endTime":"3:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On November 1, 1971, Henry A. Kissinger and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 3:55 pm to 3:56 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-058 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 013-058\n\nDate: November 1, 1971\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nTime: 3:55 pm - 3:56 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 302-32B]\n\n     President's schedule\n           -Laird\n           -Photographers\n                 -Kissinger","filename":["013-058.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:06:29","tapeEnd":"02:07:00","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"013-057","nextCode":"013-059","transcript":[{"start":0.91,"end":1.47,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.55,"end":3.55,"text":"Mr. Ziegler."},{"start":3.57,"end":3.79,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":4.15,"end":4.49,"text":"Ron?"},{"start":4.63,"end":5.21,"text":"Yes, Henry."},{"start":6.22,"end":11.64,"text":"I'm in the President's office, and he wanted you to know that he's getting ready to leave here and walk down with Ladd."},{"start":12.08,"end":12.3,"text":"Right."},{"start":12.61,"end":14.07,"text":"Tell him that's about four minutes."},{"start":14.87,"end":15.23,"text":"Okay."},{"start":15.33,"end":18.27,"text":"I mean about three minutes until I get him out there and position him."},{"start":18.29,"end":18.53,"text":"Okay."},{"start":18.55,"end":19.91,"text":"Don't laugh there, Henry, now."},{"start":20.42,"end":20.88,"text":"Don't what?"},{"start":21.16,"end":22.16,"text":"You'll be there, too."},{"start":22.76,"end":24.08,"text":"You walk on his right side."},{"start":25.4,"end":26.5,"text":"Okay."},{"start":26.52,"end":26.7,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":26.73,"end":27.09,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger and Ronald Ziegler coordinate logistics for an upcoming photo opportunity involving President Nixon and Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird. Kissinger confirms the President's departure time and provides specific positioning instructions for Ziegler to ensure he is properly placed on the President’s right side. This brief exchange serves to synchronize staff movement to facilitate official media coverage.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Melvin Laird","Media relations","Logistics","Henry Kissinger","Ronald Ziegler"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:47:16.343Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","melvin-laird","media-relations","logistics","henry-kissinger","ronald-ziegler"],"audioDurationSec":29,"audioFiles":[{"file":"013-058.mp3","bytes":705932,"durationSec":29.36,"bitrate":192358,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.041Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:36.408Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/013-058.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-058","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/13/conversation-013-058","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}