{"conversationCode":"013-084","tapeNumber":13,"conversationNumber":84,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-013-084","startDateTime":"1971-11-03T14:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-03T14:13:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Nov-1971","startTime":"9:12 AM","endDate":"3-Nov-1971","endTime":"9:13 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rizzo, Frank L.;","description":"On November 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Frank L. Rizzo talked on the telephone from 9:12 am to 9:13 am. 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Ehrlichman\n                -Role\n\n     Inauguration\n\n     Campaign\n\n     Bicentennial celebration\n          -Role of federal government\n\n     Rizzo's schedule\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542","filename":["013-084.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:13:54","tapeEnd":"03:16:04","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rizzo, Frank L."],"prevCode":"013-083","nextCode":"013-085","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.13,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":2.52,"end":2.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.86,"end":4.54,"text":"I have Mayor Rizzo for you."},{"start":4.56,"end":4.9,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.92,"end":5.26,"text":"All right?"},{"start":5.66,"end":5.8,"text":"Yes."},{"start":5.94,"end":6.26,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":7.47,"end":8.03,"text":"There you are."},{"start":8.11,"end":8.45,"text":"Hello."},{"start":8.93,"end":9.89,"text":"Mr. President, how are you?"},{"start":9.91,"end":12.12,"text":"Mr. Mayor, I just wanted to congratulate you."},{"start":12.66,"end":14.02,"text":"Very, very much."},{"start":14.04,"end":21.73,"text":"I mean, I know of the times I've seen you up in Philadelphia and here, and I followed your campaign, of course, knowing that"},{"start":22.17,"end":35.86,"text":"I always look on these mayoralty things as kind of nonpartisan things, but believe me, you ran a fine race, you were dignified, you took the right line on the law and order issue, and it shows that the people of Philadelphia want what you had to offer."},{"start":36.56,"end":42.59,"text":"And I also want you to know that, as you can tell, as you can find from"},{"start":43.1,"end":50.13,"text":"talking to your predecessor as mayor, that we want to work here at the White House with you all out."},{"start":51.05,"end":55.02,"text":"When you talk to us, you can be sure that there's no party line or anything."},{"start":55.08,"end":67.07,"text":"And the man that I have already told, when you've got any problems, the city to take up with or we can help in the federal government is Ehrlichman, John Ehrlichman, who's the head of our domestic council."},{"start":67.45,"end":67.53,"text":"Yes."},{"start":67.51,"end":72.81,"text":"I'll have him be in touch with you so that after you get in, of course, you've got a little time for you."},{"start":72.84,"end":74.29,"text":"When do they inaugurate you?"},{"start":74.31,"end":75.93,"text":"Around the 2nd of January, Mr. President."},{"start":75.99,"end":76.73,"text":"The 2nd of January."},{"start":76.77,"end":78.09,"text":"Well, that'll give you time to pick your thing."},{"start":78.14,"end":78.76,"text":"How do you feel?"},{"start":78.92,"end":81.16,"text":"Oh, I feel fine, Mr. President."},{"start":81.2,"end":83.59,"text":"It was so nice of you to call."},{"start":83.61,"end":84.59,"text":"You didn't wear out in the camp."},{"start":84.61,"end":87.83,"text":"Of course, you're a pretty tough guy."},{"start":88.2,"end":90.39,"text":"It's so nice of you to call, Mr. President."},{"start":90.41,"end":92.03,"text":"You know how I feel about you, sir."},{"start":92.05,"end":92.91,"text":"Well, I appreciate it."},{"start":92.99,"end":97.28,"text":"And I just say you can be sure that whatever Washington can do, we want to help you."},{"start":97.36,"end":101.57,"text":"Because Philadelphia, of course, we're looking forward to that."},{"start":101.92,"end":107.87,"text":"I mean, seeing that 76 thing come off, we want to work as closely as possible we can with you."},{"start":108.27,"end":109.78,"text":"Absolutely, Mr. President."},{"start":109.8,"end":111.98,"text":"It was so nice of you to come out and call me."},{"start":112.02,"end":113.1,"text":"I hope I didn't wake you up."},{"start":113.3,"end":115.45,"text":"How late did you stay up last night?"},{"start":115.63,"end":117.23,"text":"Oh, I was up until about 4 this morning."},{"start":118.03,"end":118.57,"text":"I know."},{"start":118.89,"end":119.86,"text":"I used to go through that."},{"start":119.96,"end":121.26,"text":"Well, good luck anyway."},{"start":121.38,"end":124.08,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":124.12,"end":124.28,"text":"Goodbye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon telephoned newly elected Philadelphia Mayor Frank L. Rizzo to offer congratulations on his victory and express support for his law-and-order platform. Nixon emphasized his desire for a nonpartisan working relationship with the new administration, designating John Ehrlichman as the primary White House liaison for federal assistance. The two also briefly touched upon planning for the upcoming Bicentennial celebration in Philadelphia.","topics":["Frank L. Rizzo","Philadelphia","Law and Order","John D. 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