Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 013-100 Date: Wednesday, November 3, 1971 at 12:25 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Annenberg, Walter H. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-100 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Hello. [0:02] Ambassador. [0:04] Hello, Walter. [0:05] How are you? [0:06] Couldn't be better. [0:07] Well, I just want to congratulate you on that fine man you elected as mayor. [0:12] Well, Frank phoned me the day after you spoke to him. [0:17] Yeah, Rose told me about it. [0:18] He was a boy. [0:19] He was what? [0:20] He was just as thrilled as a boy. [0:24] Great. [0:24] He was so delighted that you phoned him. [0:28] He called me right away and he said, you have no idea who called me. [0:33] And I said, oh, yes, I do. [0:35] Yeah, yeah. [0:36] He was so delighted. [0:38] Great. [0:39] I am your great friend in Frank, Mr. President. [0:44] Let me say that don't you really feel that that's a lot better for us than to have had Longstreth? [0:49] No question about it. [0:50] No question about it. [0:51] That's the way we played it. [0:53] And I really feel, I just think we just got to keep frank from being taken in by that Democratic hierarchy. [1:01] Mr. President, I want to assure you that I'm going to stick as close to that situation as I possibly can. [1:57] Well, you're not coming in Thanksgiving, I understand. [2:01] No, no, because if I do come then, I don't think it would be proper for me to return again for Christmas. [2:12] And that you ought to do. [2:14] Well, in any event, I'm just going out for, frankly, the dedication, and I have to come back because I've got a very heavy schedule here at the moment. [2:22] I think it's very generous of you to go... Well, Bob Hope is such a good friend, and I just want to be sure that he knows we're supporting him. [2:30] And it's a great project, too. [2:33] So I'm just... May I tell you how very much I admire your continuing to grasp all the initiatives? [2:40] Well, you know, some of your... You may have noted some people are sort of saying that this foreign aid thing is a defeat. [2:46] Just don't believe it, because we'll get a continuing resolution. [2:48] The Senate's going to look very bad on this. [2:50] and quite possibly you might come out with a type of legislation that will even be better. [3:00] We hope so. [3:02] And we're going to keep right on top of them. [3:05] The U.N. voted, so there wasn't a thing we could do about that. [3:07] We did the best we could. [3:10] And I can assure you that we... [3:14] We're going to remember our friends on that one, too. [3:17] I know, but in these areas, your footwork has been awfully good. [3:23] You'll turn it around. [3:24] We certainly got two good judges, incidentally. [3:27] They'll both be confirmed, two very strong men, Powell and Rehnquist. [3:31] I had a letter from a friend of mine from Virginia who is so enthusiastic because... [3:38] Judge Powell has been one of his closest friends. [3:45] He couldn't have a finer American. [3:48] His only problem is his age, but as I said to the press, 10 years of him is worth 30 of, basically, Douglas. [4:01] That's the way I feel about it anyway. [4:04] Mr. President, I'm going to stay very close to that situation because I recognize what is involved. [4:11] How are you getting along at the present time with Heath and the foreign ministry? [4:17] Heath, I think, was just a little hurt. [4:20] that he was only given one-hour notification, you know, about the news re-going to Moscow. [4:30] Right, right. [4:32] It would appear to me that the Russians did a bit of talking. [4:38] Well, as a matter of fact... About a week ahead of time. [4:41] The difficulty is that... [4:43] I subsequently found that out. [4:44] The Russians talked, but they told us not to. [4:46] That was the problem. [4:47] Mm-hmm. [4:47] But in any event, I had inferred as much to Hume when I talked. [4:52] I was trying to signal him that something was coming. [4:55] I had been, you know, we had made a commitment. [4:57] But we'll just, we've got to remember, Heath's got to remember that we're not going to embarrass them on South Africa or Rhodesia or any of those things. [5:07] Meanwhile, whereas Heath would ordinarily be inclined to be understanding, he's got to put on some kind of a facade for the European group. [5:19] That's correct. [5:20] He's got to get in under the tent. [5:22] So he has to act perhaps a little colder for several months. [5:28] That's the way I read the cards. [5:30] I understand that. [5:30] And, of course, we've supported him on his Common Market initiative, and that was a fine victory for him, too. [5:37] Well, anyway, it's good to talk to you, and I hope you and Lee... [5:39] Thanks for calling. [5:40] And give Lee my best. [5:42] I'm delighted to do that, Mr. President. [5:44] From Pat, bye. [5:45] Right on.