Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 13 › Conversation 013-128

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Arthur F. Burns

Thursday, November 4, 1971 · 6:25 PM–6:28 PM ET · White House Telephone · 19 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation013-128 on Tape 13 (tape position 04:08:53–04:09:13)StartThursday, November 4, 1971 at 6:25 PMEndThursday, November 4, 1971 at 6:28 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 013-128 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon consulted the White House operator to locate Federal Reserve Chairman Arthur F. Burns regarding a returned phone call. Upon learning that Burns was attending an event at the Madison Hotel, the President instructed the operator to leave a message with Burns' wife. Nixon decided against interrupting Burns at the function, opting instead to speak with him directly during an upcoming receiving line appearance that evening.

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Hello.
I find that Dr. Burns is attending a function at the Madison Hotel.
Should I try to reach him there?
His wife will see him at 7.30.
No, you just tell his wife that I was returning his call and that I'll see him in the receiving line tonight.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
He called me earlier today.
Yes, sir.
All right.

NARA Description

On November 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:25 pm and 6:28 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-128 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 013-128

Date: November 4, 1971
Time: Unknown between 6:25 pm and 6:28 pm

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

Location: White House Telephone

The White House operator talked with the President.

[See Conversation No. 614-23]

     Arthur F. Burns’ location

     Message for Mrs. Burns
         -Burns’ previous call
         -Burns’ future meeting with the President

Also recorded on November 4, 1971

  • 082-001 5:06 PM · 1 hr 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon and selected Republican members of the House of Representatives, including Samuel L. Devine, Carleton J. King, William L. Dickinson, John E. Hunt, John H. Kyl, James M. Collins, Robert H. Michel, John Rousselot, Clark MacGregor, William E. Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Alexander P. Butterfield, and John D. Ehrlichman, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 5:06 pm to 6:23 pm.
  • 614-019 5:06 PM · 31 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:06 pm and 6:23 pm.
  • 614-021 6:23 PM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:23 pm to 6:25 pm.
  • 013-127 6:25 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:25 pm and 6:28 pm.
  • 614-022 6:25 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:25 pm and 6:28 pm.
  • 614-023 6:25 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:25 pm and 6:28 pm.
  • 614-024 6:28 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:28 pm to 6:47 pm.
  • 614-025 6:47 PM · 11 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:47 pm and 11:59 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 013-128, November 4, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-128 (accessed October 12, 2026).