{"conversationCode":"013-128","tapeNumber":13,"conversationNumber":128,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-013-128","startDateTime":"1971-11-04T23:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-04T23:28:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1971","startTime":"6:25 PM","endDate":"4-Nov-1971","endTime":"6:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On November 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:25 pm and 6:28 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-128 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 013-128\n\nDate: November 4, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 6:25 pm and 6:28 pm\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 614-23]\n\n     Arthur F. Burns’ location\n\n     Message for Mrs. Burns\n         -Burns’ previous call\n         -Burns’ future meeting with the President","filename":["013-128.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:08:53","tapeEnd":"04:09:13","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"013-127","nextCode":"013-129","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.43,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.45,"end":5.24,"text":"I find that Dr. Burns is attending a function at the Madison Hotel."},{"start":5.34,"end":6.8,"text":"Should I try to reach him there?"},{"start":8.46,"end":10.03,"text":"His wife will see him at 7.30."},{"start":10.05,"end":15.46,"text":"No, you just tell his wife that I was returning his call and that I'll see him in the receiving line tonight."},{"start":15.58,"end":16.04,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":16.06,"end":16.32,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":16.38,"end":17.5,"text":"He called me earlier today."},{"start":17.68,"end":18.44,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":18.46,"end":18.88,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted the White House operator to locate Federal Reserve Chairman Arthur F. Burns regarding a returned phone call. Upon learning that Burns was attending an event at the Madison Hotel, the President instructed the operator to leave a message with Burns' wife. Nixon decided against interrupting Burns at the function, opting instead to speak with him directly during an upcoming receiving line appearance that evening.","topics":["Arthur F. Burns","Federal Reserve","White House operations","Scheduling","Communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:53:30.746Z"},"topicSlugs":["arthur-f-burns","federal-reserve","white-house-operations","scheduling","communication"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"013-128.mp3","bytes":463306,"durationSec":19.23,"bitrate":192768,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.041Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:36.417Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/013-128.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-128","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/13/conversation-013-128","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}