{"conversationCode":"013-140","tapeNumber":13,"conversationNumber":140,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-013-140","startDateTime":"1971-11-05T00:37:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-05T00:38:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1971","startTime":"7:37 PM","endDate":"4-Nov-1971","endTime":"7:38 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On November 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:37 pm to 7:38 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-140 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 013-140\n\nDate: November 4, 1971\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nTime: 7:37 pm - 7:38 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     John D. Ehrlichman's schedule\n          -Possible meeting with the President","filename":["013-140.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:12:42","tapeEnd":"04:13:02","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"013-139","nextCode":"013-141","transcript":[{"start":0.81,"end":13.91,"text":"It'd be useful to have Ehrlichman come down if he'd like."},{"start":13.93,"end":14.9,"text":"Is he planning to go up to Boston?"},{"start":15.1,"end":15.34,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":15.36,"end":16.9,"text":"Better."},{"start":16.92,"end":17.02,"text":"Okay."},{"start":17.05,"end":17.91,"text":"I just thought if we talked about politics."},{"start":17.93,"end":18.07,"text":"No, no."},{"start":18.09,"end":18.45,"text":"I didn't go there."},{"start":18.47,"end":19.01,"text":"We can talk politics later."},{"start":19.03,"end":19.13,"text":"Okay."},{"start":19.15,"end":19.25,"text":"Okay."},{"start":19.27,"end":19.37,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discuss the scheduling of John Ehrlichman, specifically considering whether he should meet with the President or proceed with travel plans to Boston. Nixon expresses that a meeting with Ehrlichman would be useful but determines that substantive discussions regarding political strategy should be postponed to a later time. The brief exchange concludes with an agreement to defer these political consultations.","topics":["John Ehrlichman","Scheduling","Political strategy","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:54:34.827Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-ehrlichman","scheduling","political-strategy","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"013-140.mp3","bytes":465187,"durationSec":19.33,"bitrate":192553,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.041Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:36.419Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/013-140.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-140","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/13/conversation-013-140","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}