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Conversation 014-034

TapeTape 14StartThursday, November 11, 1971 at 10:22 AMEndThursday, November 11, 1971 at 10:26 AMTape start time00:59:07Tape end time01:03:49ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  White House operator;  Mitchell, John N.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John N. Mitchell talked on the telephone from 10:22 am to 10:26 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 014-034 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 14-34

Date: November 11, 1971

Time: 10:22 am - 10:26 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     John N. Mitchell

The President talked with Mitchell.

[See Conversation No. 618-1]

     Earl L. Butz
           -Meeting with Mitchell
           -Mitchell’s opinion
                -Investigation by John D. Ehrlichman and John C. Whitaker
           -Meeting with Mitchell

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[Duration: 49s]

     Earl L. Butz
           -Meeting with John N. Mitchell
                -Political work
                      -November 1971-November 1972
                -Support
                -Interest in politics
                      -Previous run in Indiana gubernatorial primary
                             -Clifford M. Hardin

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     Earl L. Butz
           -Organization of Agriculture Department

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     The President's speeches, November 9, 1971
          -Chicago
          -Los Angeles fund-raising dinner
               -John A. Mitchell's speech
          -Chicago
               -Public reaction
               -The Vice President
                      -Reference
                      -Right-wing
          -Los Angeles dinner
               -Ronald W. Reagan
                      -Remarks
               -Nelson A. Rockefeller
               -Endorsements
                      - Nelson A. Rockefeller and Ronald W. Reagan
               Ronald W. Reagan
                      -Endorsement
                            -Personal

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     Ronald W. Reagan
          -Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] programs
               -Mitchell's forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman
               -John G. Veneman
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Attorney General.
Hello.
Good morning, Mr. President.
What's your judgment on this man?
I'm going to see him pretty soon.
I have spent some time with him this morning.
I know you're meeting at 8 o'clock with him.
I think that he's the guy that can probably carry the mission.
You do?
Yes, sir.
He looks like a Midwest evangelist.
Does he have any crap in his shoes?
Well, I hope so.
If he doesn't, we'll get some for him.
We can find left around here, can't we?
And John Ehrlichman and John Whitaker tell me that they have checked back through his pronouncements and so forth, and he's not locked into any particular...
ideology in the farm area where it'll come back to haunt us.
I trust that's the case they say it is.
So I think it's quite a stemwinder from the accounts that I've gotten around the country on the stand.
I also am not particularly concerned about the condition that he's imposed with respect to the structure of the department.
I think if that's handled in the right vein, it could be a very definite plus for the administration going in, and I don't think it's going to stand in the way of anything that might conceivably come out of governmental reorganization, certainly not between now and next November.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
All right.
We'll see him here.
Give him the message.
Mr. Garcia.
Yes, sir.
Okay, Josh.
I found that we have some problems with our dear governor from California and HEW, but I'll take them up with her.
On welfare?
Yeah.
They're cutting into the programs, apparently, that you approved in San Clement.
But I'll take it up with Ehrlichman and see if we can.
Yeah, we were trying like the devil to...
cooperate there, but it's not easy, I can assure you.
Well, it's gotten into personalities, too, but hopefully we can get it straightened out.
Because it really puts the heat under his collar every time he has to deal with ATW and Veneman in particular.
Oh, I know, I know.
So we'll see if we can't paper that over.
Okay.
Right, sir.
Thanks.
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