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Conversation 014-036

TapeTape 14StartThursday, November 11, 1971 at 11:31 AMEndThursday, November 11, 1971 at 12:50 PMTape start time01:03:58Tape end time01:05:19ParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.;  Sonnenfeldt, Helmut ("Hal")Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On November 11, 1971, Henry A. Kissinger and Helmut ("Hal") Sonnenfeldt talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:31 am and 12:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 014-036 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 14-36

Date: November 11, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:31 am and 12:50 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Henry A. Kissinger talked with Helmut Sonnenfeldt.

[See Conversation No. 298-5D]

[The President can be heard in the background]

     Talking points for Arthur K. Watson
          -Georges J.R. Pompidou's schedule
          -Watson’s meeting with Pompidou
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Hello.
Yes, Henry.
Hal, could you do some talking points for Watson, which he should take into Pompidou, which just frankly explain the problem to him, saying there are two possibilities, that what we really most want is a preliminary meeting with him before we talk to the others, yet the only place to do that is in the Western Hemisphere.
If he wants us to go over there, we must see the others.
What we most want is to, we don't care about the protocol part, who sees whom.
What we want is a chance to talk to him first.
Could you?
Okay, I've just been racking up all the various possible combinations here, and I'm up to number five, but if you want, stop doing that and do the talk lines first.
Well, what are they possibly?
Well, they're most of the ones that we talked about.
I just thought I ought to systematically think them through.
None of them are really very good.
So I think that Watts and Otto go in and see Pompidou again tomorrow.
Okay.
Well, let me simply draft a message with the points you should make.
Yeah, but it is to go to my back channel.
Oh, yeah, sure.
But don't send it yet.
Let me see it first.
No, no, I'll have it for you.
Okay, good.
Bye.
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