Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 14 › Conversation 014-044

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Delegation appointments

Thursday, November 11, 1971 · 3:32 PM–3:33 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation014-044 on Tape 14 (tape position 01:12:08–01:13:17)StartThursday, November 11, 1971 at 3:32 PMEndThursday, November 11, 1971 at 3:33 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 014-044 ↗

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon discussed the vetting of potential political appointees recommended by Jeremiah Milbank. The conversation focused on the suitability of Robert Dunlop and Bernard J. Lasker for upcoming delegation assignments, with specific concerns regarding financial arrangements and family accompaniment. The President directed that all relevant documentation be forwarded to H.R. Haldeman to finalize the review process.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted to know who the memorandum is from that you've got.
Oh, I tell you.
Yeah.
Milbank's called one of our girls.
Yeah, I know, but who, the ones that say we've appointed them or named them, who's it written from, from whom to whom, do you know?
I'm just trying to run it down.
Oh, no, he just called up to recommend these people.
Oh, Dunlop is recommended?
Yeah.
Well, we might be able to send him, but we can't send...
We can't send Bunny with his wife and with his two kids.
That's just a... And he'll do his own expenses, Ed, if appointed and all that.
Well, maybe that's all right.
I mean, he can be with you, you know.
No, I don't care.
I don't care.
I just wanted to know whether...
I mean, he's never gotten anything yet, and it's not a bad idea.
Maybe it's a bad idea.
Fine.
We'll see.
Yeah, well, okay.
Might be a good way to pay him off.
But I just want to...
I'll just get at the thing right away and...
Apparently, Milbanks called our secretary and gave him this information.
All right, send that to Haldeman, if you would, please.
Okay.
Then Haldeman can get on it right away, see, because he's the one that's in charge of it in my office.
Okay, good.
All right, fine, thank you.
Bye.

On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 3:32 pm to 3:33 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 014-044 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 14-44

Date: November 11, 1971
Time: 3:32 pm - 3:33 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See Conversation No. 298-22]

     Delegation appointment

          -Memorandum
          -Telephone call from Jeremiah Milbank
               -Recommendations
                    -Call to Mrs. Nixon's Office
                    -Robert Dunlop
                    -Bernard J. ("Bunny") Lasker
                           -Family
                           -Financial arrangement
                           -Mrs. Nixon
                    -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
  • 014-042 3:30 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:32 pm.
  • 014-043 3:30 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:32 pm.
  • 298-020 3:30 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:32 pm.
  • 298-021 3:30 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:32 pm.
  • 298-022 3:32 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:32 pm to 3:33 pm.
  • 014-045 3:33 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 3:33 pm to 3:34 pm.
  • 298-023 3:33 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 3:33 pm.
  • 298-024 3:33 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:33 pm to 3:34 pm.

Conversation 014-044, November 11, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/014-044 (accessed October 16, 2026).