{"conversationCode":"014-051","tapeNumber":14,"conversationNumber":51,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-014-051","startDateTime":"1971-11-11T21:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-11T21:37:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Nov-1971","startTime":"4:36 PM","endDate":"11-Nov-1971","endTime":"4:37 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Stennis, John C.;","description":"On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John C. Stennis talked on the telephone from 4:36 pm to 4:37 pm. 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(President)","White House operator","Stennis, John C."],"prevCode":"014-050","nextCode":"014-052","transcript":[{"start":1.43,"end":1.86,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.88,"end":3.73,"text":"Senator Stennis is on the line, Mr. President."},{"start":3.95,"end":4.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.41,"end":5.53,"text":"Hello, John."},{"start":5.59,"end":6.49,"text":"Hello, Mr. President."},{"start":6.51,"end":6.83,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":6.85,"end":10.65,"text":"I just want to, I'm always calling you to thank you for things, but you do so many good things."},{"start":10.69,"end":12.84,"text":"But that was great to have your amendment passed today."},{"start":13.18,"end":15.98,"text":"Well, that's all right, Mr. President."},{"start":16.02,"end":17.98,"text":"You worked so hard and they were hanging."},{"start":18.08,"end":20.46,"text":"I'll tell you, this is very important."},{"start":20.57,"end":25.95,"text":"I mean, as you well know, John, the most important part of this aid thing is not the stuff you passed yesterday."},{"start":26.41,"end":26.47,"text":"No."},{"start":26.55,"end":27.93,"text":"That's stuff we can get along without."},{"start":27.97,"end":28.41,"text":"That's right."},{"start":28.43,"end":29.7,"text":"I mean, of course we want it."},{"start":29.9,"end":33.8,"text":"But boy, this is essential if you're going to be able to maintain any kind of"},{"start":33.78,"end":34.5,"text":"foreign policy."},{"start":34.68,"end":37.75,"text":"Well, there's no way to get out of there unless you do this."},{"start":37.77,"end":43,"text":"And Vietnam putting on that alone is... Well, the same is true of places like Korea."},{"start":43.02,"end":45.32,"text":"If you want to reduce the number of Americans, you've got to continue."},{"start":45.76,"end":49.31,"text":"Cambodia, you can... Sweden, there's every place."},{"start":49.71,"end":51.13,"text":"Well, I appreciate it very much."},{"start":51.25,"end":51.8,"text":"It's not hard."},{"start":51.81,"end":53.84,"text":"You don't have to put up with us."},{"start":54.64,"end":55.5,"text":"No, no."},{"start":55.84,"end":56.72,"text":"It's fine."},{"start":56.95,"end":57.71,"text":"You're doing great."},{"start":57.99,"end":58.49,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":58.51,"end":58.99,"text":"All right."},{"start":59.07,"end":59.43,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":59.45,"end":60.83,"text":"I certainly wish you well in every way."},{"start":60.85,"end":62.07,"text":"And I thank you for your call."},{"start":62.22,"end":63.42,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon telephoned Senator John C. Stennis to express his gratitude for the successful passage of the Stennis amendment regarding the foreign aid program. The two discussed the strategic necessity of the legislation, with the President emphasizing that the aid is essential for maintaining U.S. foreign policy and facilitating the withdrawal of American troops from Vietnam, Korea, and Cambodia. Nixon credited Stennis's hard work in the Senate for securing this legislative victory despite a difficult political environment.","topics":["Foreign aid","Stennis amendment","Vietnam War","Military withdrawal","Senate relations","Legislative strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:00:54.243Z"},"topicSlugs":["foreign-aid","stennis-amendment","vietnam-war","military-withdrawal","senate-relations","legislative-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":63,"audioFiles":[{"file":"014-051.mp3","bytes":2031858,"durationSec":63.38,"bitrate":256482,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.322Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/014-051.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/014-051","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/14/conversation-014-051","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}