Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 014-070
Date: Thursday, November 11, 1971 at 7:24 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/014-070

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[0:02] Dr. Kissinger, Mr. President.
[0:03] Yeah.
[0:04] Mr. President.
[0:06] Hello.
[0:06] Mr. President.
[0:07] Yeah.
[0:08] You asked me to call you back.
[0:16] Must have been about something earlier.
[0:18] I was, uh...
[0:25] No, I'm just looking here.
[0:26] Nothing.
[0:27] I was taking a shower.
[0:29] Oh, yeah.
[0:30] Wait a minute.
[0:30] Wait a minute.
[0:31] Wait a minute.
[0:31] Let me see.
[0:33] That's right.
[0:36] You're going out.
[0:39] Let me just check a minute.
[0:40] It's over at the desk.
[0:41] Just a second.
[0:56] Oh, yeah, I know what it was.
[0:57] With regard to McCloy in the morning, rather than saying a member of the cabinet, why don't we tell him I want to make him a member of the National Security Council?
[1:06] It's more important.
[1:07] It doesn't involve all the cabinet crap, you see, which means nothing.
[1:11] And, you know, I can always add something.
[1:14] How did that sound to you?
[1:16] Well, he just has to be on the National Security Council for European matters.
[1:20] Well...
[1:23] He'll be a pain in the neck.
[1:24] Just say, for the National Security Council, European matters or anything indirectly or directly involving them.
[1:30] Right.
[1:30] I don't even mind him being on, you know, because... Well, he could be a pain in the neck.
[1:35] All right, I see.
[1:36] Fine.
[1:36] National Security Council for all European matters.
[1:39] Right.
[1:39] The Cabinet thing is a little bit of a problem because we've got so many jackasses there already and it doesn't look too much.
[1:45] Okay?
[1:46] Right, Mr. President.
[1:47] All right.
[1:47] Have fun tonight.
[1:49] Bye.
[1:49] Bye.