{"conversationCode":"014-075","tapeNumber":14,"conversationNumber":75,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-014-075","startDateTime":"1971-11-12T00:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-12T00:51:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Nov-1971","startTime":"7:48 PM","endDate":"11-Nov-1971","endTime":"7:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 7:48 pm to 7:51 pm. 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Jarriel\n          -Agriculture Department announcement\n               -ABC, CBS\n                     -Clifford M. Hardin\n                     -Earl L. Butz's statement\n                           -Corn prices\n               -The President's statement\n                     -ABC, NBC, CBS\n                     -Reorganization\n                           -ABC\n          -Senate vote on John C. Stennis Amendment\n               -ABC\n               -Bob Clark\n          -ABC news\n\n     Misuse of Government agencies\n         -Daniel L. Schorr\n         -Investigation","filename":["014-075.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:24:21","tapeEnd":"02:26:51","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"014-074","nextCode":"014-076","transcript":[{"start":0.98,"end":1.42,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.58,"end":1.94,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.62,"end":7.76,"text":"I was wondering in view of the announcement on agriculture if the"},{"start":8.27,"end":10.39,"text":"thing up at the memorial got any play today?"},{"start":10.55,"end":11.23,"text":"Yes, it did."},{"start":11.25,"end":14.15,"text":"On both CBS and ABC."},{"start":14.29,"end":16.06,"text":"It did not get on NBC."},{"start":16.08,"end":16.9,"text":"What did they play?"},{"start":16.94,"end":18.46,"text":"Just the laying of the wreath?"},{"start":19,"end":20.14,"text":"Yes, it was very good."},{"start":20.5,"end":22.35,"text":"Played the tabs and so forth."},{"start":23.23,"end":30.54,"text":"And ABC, Tom Giro referred to the statement that we released, but ABC and CBS used the film."},{"start":30.84,"end":32.66,"text":"Now what about the other announcement?"},{"start":32.68,"end":34.22,"text":"How did it play?"},{"start":35.89,"end":37.33,"text":"The ABC and"},{"start":37.85,"end":42.06,"text":"CBS used the Hardin thing and also filmed from it."},{"start":42.7,"end":49.46,"text":"They used the part of Butts where he referred to, I have the full support of the president."},{"start":49.95,"end":52.51,"text":"in relation to the agriculture problems."},{"start":52.95,"end":63.62,"text":"And then when he looked to Hardin and said that corn prices are too low and the president understands this, which was really not a slap at Hardin, but it was a good point to come across, you know."},{"start":65.01,"end":67.95,"text":"So ABC and CBS used that."},{"start":68.07,"end":69.27,"text":"NBC did not use it."},{"start":70.33,"end":72.54,"text":"They didn't use any of my comments."},{"start":73.18,"end":77.64,"text":"NBC didn't, but ABC and CBS did."},{"start":77.99,"end":79.26,"text":"what they use of what I said."},{"start":79.28,"end":81.34,"text":"I'm just curious, just for future reference."},{"start":81.5,"end":84.83,"text":"I'm trying to recall here because I was... Just the announcement."},{"start":85.39,"end":88.48,"text":"Well, the announcement and I think the reorganization."},{"start":88.6,"end":90.82,"text":"I know ABC used the reorganization."},{"start":90.86,"end":92.2,"text":"I believe it was ABC."},{"start":92.64,"end":96.69,"text":"Did they network quite positively, the Senate vote today?"},{"start":96.85,"end":97.35,"text":"Yes, they did."},{"start":97.73,"end":98.95,"text":"ABC did, for example."},{"start":99.3,"end":101.16,"text":"Clark had a very good report on that."},{"start":101.46,"end":101.62,"text":"Who?"},{"start":102.2,"end":102.52,"text":"Clark."},{"start":102.8,"end":103.96,"text":"Bob Clark on ABC."},{"start":104.34,"end":106.29,"text":"ABC has by far the best news."},{"start":106.75,"end":107.01,"text":"I know."},{"start":107.07,"end":107.93,"text":"No question about it."},{"start":107.95,"end":108.86,"text":"They are the best, aren't they?"},{"start":108.88,"end":109.25,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":110.24,"end":112.42,"text":"And CBS had a report."},{"start":112.69,"end":116.85,"text":"from the hill on how they were turning around and moving."},{"start":117.37,"end":120.72,"text":"Well, we must have had a pretty good day, except for the stock market."},{"start":122.32,"end":128.87,"text":"It's interesting, both NBC and ABC did a very quick pass on the shore thing."},{"start":129.35,"end":133.62,"text":"CBS did not use it, which was interesting, I think."},{"start":134.53,"end":136.75,"text":"But the shore thing did not play heavily at all."},{"start":136.77,"end":140,"text":"What isn't that big a story, for Christ's sakes?"},{"start":140.14,"end":141.86,"text":"Building him up to some victory."},{"start":142.42,"end":146.41,"text":"Somebody, they were considering him for something, an environment, and he didn't pass."},{"start":146.69,"end":147.83,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":147.85,"end":148.51,"text":"Okay, thank you."},{"start":148.55,"end":149.82,"text":"Okay, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler reviewed the evening television news coverage of the President's Veterans Day ceremony, recent Department of Agriculture announcements, and Senate votes. They assessed how different networks reported on administration initiatives, with Nixon expressing a clear preference for ABC's news coverage over that of CBS and NBC. Additionally, they briefly discussed the minimal media attention given to an investigation regarding Daniel Schorr.","topics":["Television news coverage","Veterans Day","Department of Agriculture","Senate proceedings","Daniel Schorr","Media relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:03:13.693Z"},"topicSlugs":["television-news-coverage","veterans-day","department-of-agriculture","senate-proceedings","daniel-schorr","media-relations"],"audioDurationSec":151,"audioFiles":[{"file":"014-075.mp3","bytes":4828007,"durationSec":150.76,"bitrate":256203,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.322Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/014-075.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/014-075","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/14/conversation-014-075","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}