Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 014-155 Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1971 at 2:48 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Ehrlichman, John D. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/014-155 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:02] Mr. Perry, Mr. John Ehrlichman? [0:03] Yeah. [0:05] Hello, John. [0:06] The way that you can best explain it to the budget boys is this, which I think they'll see it clearly. [0:12] The question is really giving in to Percy on H.R. [0:20] 1, something that there's a chance that we can, that may not pass, and that we could, if necessary, veto. [0:30] or being stuck with a tax bill, something which I have to sign. [0:37] That's the difference as I see it. [0:39] And I think the choice is pretty clear under those circumstances. [0:41] Don't you agree? [0:42] Right. [0:42] I just talked to George about that. [0:44] He sees that. [0:45] I just got to sign the tax bill. [0:47] We can all talk that we're going to be brave and veto our own tax bill, but by God, not now. [0:51] Well, as soon as he heard that, he saw it. [0:56] Okay. [0:56] All right.