{"conversationCode":"015-061","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":61,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-061","startDateTime":"1971-11-20T15:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-20T15:24:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Nov-1971","startTime":"10:23 AM","endDate":"20-Nov-1971","endTime":"10:24 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House operator; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On November 20, 1971, the White House operator and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:23 am and 10:24 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-061 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 15-61\n\nDate: November 20, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:23 am and 10:24 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 621-18E]\n\n     Agha Hilaly\n         -Hilaly's location","filename":["015-061.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:44:49","tapeEnd":"01:45:00","participantsList":["White House operator","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"015-060","nextCode":"015-062","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.24,"text":"Dr. Kissinger?"},{"start":2.38,"end":3.03,"text":"Yes."},{"start":3.17,"end":8.76,"text":"Ambassador Raja of Pakistan just left in his car and they don't know what time he's going to be back."},{"start":8.78,"end":9.72,"text":"I'll catch him later."},{"start":9.74,"end":10.07,"text":"All right."},{"start":10.09,"end":11.7,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger consulted with the White House operator to confirm the current whereabouts of the Pakistani ambassador, Agha Hilaly. Upon learning that the ambassador had departed the premises and was unavailable, Kissinger decided to postpone their meeting. This brief exchange highlights the ongoing administrative coordination required to manage sensitive diplomatic communications during a period of high international tension.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","Agha Hilaly","Pakistan-United States relations","diplomatic communications","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:16:40.856Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","agha-hilaly","pakistan-united-states-relations","diplomatic-communications","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"015-061.mp3","bytes":280867,"durationSec":11.65,"bitrate":192874,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.042Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/015-061.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-061","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/15/conversation-015-061","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}