{"conversationCode":"015-064","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":64,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-064","startDateTime":"1971-11-20T15:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-20T15:45:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Nov-1971","startTime":"10:27 AM","endDate":"20-Nov-1971","endTime":"10:45 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On November 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:27 am and 10:45 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-064 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 15-64\n\nDate: November 20, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:27 am and 10:45 am\n\fLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 621-18H]\n\n     Richard M. Helms\n          -Location\n          -Robert E. Cushman, Jr.\n          -Message\n               -Henry A. Kissinger","filename":["015-064.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:47:57","tapeEnd":"01:48:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"015-063","nextCode":"015-065","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.09,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.27,"end":3.24,"text":"Director Helms is en route to the shore."},{"start":3.28,"end":5.06,"text":"Should get there around quarter of one."},{"start":5.1,"end":10.03,"text":"They want to know if General Cushman could help you."},{"start":10.05,"end":12.45,"text":"Or do you want me to try to reach Director Helms when he arrives?"},{"start":12.47,"end":13.17,"text":"No, I'll tell you."},{"start":13.19,"end":16,"text":"I have a message for him."},{"start":16.24,"end":18.82,"text":"You can tell his office, but Dr. Kissinger will deliver it to him."},{"start":18.84,"end":19,"text":"Alright."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator regarding how to relay a message to CIA Director Richard Helms, who was currently traveling. After learning that Helms was unreachable until later in the afternoon, the President decided against utilizing General Robert E. Cushman, Jr. as an intermediary. Instead, Nixon instructed the operator to inform Helms’s office that National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger would personally deliver the communication.","topics":["Richard M. Helms","Henry A. Kissinger","Robert E. Cushman, Jr.","Communication procedures","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:16:57.198Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-m-helms","henry-a-kissinger","robert-e-cushman-jr","communication-procedures","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":20,"audioFiles":[{"file":"015-064.mp3","bytes":480861,"durationSec":19.97,"bitrate":192608,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.618Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/015-064.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-064","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/15/conversation-015-064","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}