{"conversationCode":"015-072","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":72,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-072","startDateTime":"1971-11-20T16:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-20T16:05:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Nov-1971","startTime":"11:02 AM","endDate":"20-Nov-1971","endTime":"11:05 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bible, Alan;","description":"On November 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alan Bible talked on the telephone from 11:02 am to 11:05 am. 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(President)","Bible, Alan"],"prevCode":"015-071","nextCode":"015-073","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":10.88,"text":"I'm not calling you about any business, but something much more important."},{"start":11.08,"end":15.05,"text":"I just found that my old friend from the Senate days has just had a birthday."},{"start":15.03,"end":16.21,"text":"Well, that's true."},{"start":16.23,"end":16.76,"text":"Is that right?"},{"start":16.94,"end":17.52,"text":"That's right."},{"start":17.54,"end":23.37,"text":"Well, I want to wish you the best and just hope you have many happy returns."},{"start":23.57,"end":24.71,"text":"Well, thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":24.73,"end":27.05,"text":"Coming from the President of the United States, that's high on."},{"start":27.07,"end":33.25,"text":"Well, you know, after all, you're the senator from my wife's state, and she would never forgive me unless I called you."},{"start":33.29,"end":34.09,"text":"Oh, you're wonderful."},{"start":35.08,"end":36.04,"text":"How are you feeling?"},{"start":36.12,"end":37.49,"text":"Are you taking care of your health?"},{"start":37.51,"end":37.77,"text":"Right."},{"start":37.79,"end":39.99,"text":"As a matter of fact, today I'm here in the office."},{"start":41.22,"end":46.47,"text":"You know, a lot of stuff piles up, but I get all the odds and many things done."},{"start":46.61,"end":49.3,"text":"I've just had a long meeting with Carmel and various things."},{"start":50.04,"end":51.6,"text":"And I'll go up to Camp David this afternoon."},{"start":61.69,"end":68.22,"text":"You know, when you go to it, it's too much of an effort for those poor folks who have to cover you."},{"start":68.24,"end":72.36,"text":"Well, I appreciate your calling me, and it's very kind of you."},{"start":72.8,"end":82.97,"text":"I count on myself, and we are very proud of the fact that you've got a wonderful little wife who comes from a great old eastern area."},{"start":83.19,"end":84.49,"text":"So that's great."},{"start":84.51,"end":85.88,"text":"Mr. President, I appreciate it a great deal."},{"start":85.89,"end":87.38,"text":"I want to say just one other thing."},{"start":87.5,"end":88.68,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":88.66,"end":97.92,"text":"in front of that AFL-CIO, and even though I'm not of your same faith, people admire a guy that goes into the lion's den."},{"start":98.58,"end":100.22,"text":"Some discourtesies."},{"start":100.3,"end":104.21,"text":"If I were to vote, I would say you came out topside on that one."},{"start":104.33,"end":105.87,"text":"They didn't bother me."},{"start":105.93,"end":106.49,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":106.57,"end":109.92,"text":"You know, I had an interesting thing that just came in."},{"start":110.14,"end":112.42,"text":"I just saw something here."},{"start":112.4,"end":114,"text":"Here's a call."},{"start":114.62,"end":122.58,"text":"You know, they've had 1,002 wires already, but it's an interesting one from Mrs. Lou Gehrig."},{"start":123.22,"end":130.69,"text":"And she says, Your admirable courage toward the rudeness of Mr. Meany and followers was wonderful to see on TV today."},{"start":130.71,"end":132.35,"text":"It's a tough ballgame."},{"start":132.57,"end":133.35,"text":"Keep slugging."},{"start":133.53,"end":134.92,"text":"Isn't that interesting?"},{"start":134.9,"end":135.9,"text":"That's it."},{"start":135.98,"end":139.13,"text":"I've never met Mrs. Gehrig, but that's the other nice thing."},{"start":139.57,"end":141.66,"text":"Well, you saw her husband play baseball."},{"start":141.8,"end":142.82,"text":"Oh, boy, and he was a great one."},{"start":143,"end":145.88,"text":"Well, Mr. President, thank you very much for calling me."},{"start":145.9,"end":146.66,"text":"Good to talk to you."},{"start":146.8,"end":146.96,"text":"Okay."},{"start":147.26,"end":147.74,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated this phone call to Senator Alan Bible to offer birthday greetings, noting the connection to First Lady Pat Nixon's roots in Nevada. The conversation transitioned into a discussion of the President's upcoming plans at Camp David and his recent appearance before the AFL-CIO convention. 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