Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 015-091
Date: Monday, November 22, 1971 at 1:30 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, Clark
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-091

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[0:01] Hello.
[0:02] Yes, Mr. President.
[0:03] With regard to that vote this afternoon, I guess that now everything has been done that can be done, isn't it, what you say, as far as... You've got the word that you, of course, can use that...
[0:18] you weren't shooting a blank with regard to the possibility of a consideration of veto, for example.
[0:23] Yes, sir.
[0:23] I don't know whether that would help any.
[0:25] I don't know.
[0:25] Maybe it would have the other direction.
[0:27] Well, I pass it on to Senator Scott and Senator Griffin to use as they see fit.
[0:32] And we're getting copies of the exact transcript of the questions and answers of the John Connolly press conference that relate to this issue and getting those up there.
[0:40] Hopefully they'll be of some help with some of the Southern Democrats that we're working on, Spong and Allen, Jordan and so forth.
[0:49] Good, good.
[0:50] We think we're doing everything we can.
[0:52] I think you are.
[0:53] By God, we...
[0:55] There's nothing...
[0:57] I don't think there's anything we can do.
[0:58] Now, Laird is working on Stennis, is he?
[1:01] Yes, and...
[1:02] Stennis, I think, is going to be all right.
[1:04] Stennis has said it may be that I'll have to give a live pair to someone.
[1:08] Well, give it to Munt.
[1:10] Give it to Munt is what we're working on.
[1:11] We're working on a Munt-Stennis pair.
[1:14] Good.
[1:14] But we'll use that as a fallback.
[1:15] We want John's negative vote if we possibly can, but if we can't get it to... A live pair is... A live pair is the next best thing.
[1:21] That's a half a vote.
[1:22] But you're live.
[1:24] And we may need that half vote.
[1:28] We think we do.
[1:28] It would be great to win one by one vote.
[1:31] Oh, it would be, Mr. President.
[1:34] Don't lose Miller.
[1:36] Okay.
[1:37] All right.
[1:37] All right, Mr. President.