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Conversation 015-119

TapeTape 15StartTuesday, November 23, 1971 at 5:44 PMEndTuesday, November 23, 1971 at 5:47 PMTape start time03:40:11Tape end time03:43:26ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  White House operatorRecording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On November 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone from 5:44 pm to 5:47 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-119 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 15-119

Date: November 23, 1971
Time: 5:44 pm - 5:47 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     John B. Connally

The President talked with Connally.

[See also Conversation No. 623-24D]

     The President's schedule, 11/24
          -Meeting with Connally, George P. Shultz and John D. Ehrlichman
          -Meeting with Connally and Arthur F. Burns
               -Connally, Henry A. Kissinger and Shultz
               -Connally's meeting with Burns
                      -Money supply
               -Kissinger and Shultz
               -The President's trip to California for Eisenhower Center event
               -Time
          -Meeting with Burns, Kissinger, Connally and Shultz
               -Time
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yes, sir.
Let me spend a minute to be sure that I know.
We meet tomorrow at 10, I understand, with Schultz and Ehrlichman, and that's on budget, that's on tax.
And at 1130, it says here that you and Burns and I meet.
I don't believe I'd been notified of that, but that's fine.
Yeah, well, the only thing I was... Well, apparently he's coming.
The only thing I was wondering about is...
whether or not you and I and Kissinger and Schultz ought to sit down to get our ducks in a row before we talk to Burns.
Remember, you said the day that you thought that the whole group ought to meet with Burns or something.
Yes, sir.
And I'm just trying to...
So I can clear an earlier morning thing for you, like a 9 o'clock thing.
But you tell me what you think is the best plan, because the one thing I'm concerned about, John...
I think it's very important that we get Burns lined up so that he doesn't go over there and try to call the signals.
Yes, sir.
Don't you agree?
Yes, sir.
He's got to support whatever you do, you see.
Here's what I thought might work out.
I'm going to have breakfast with him in the morning.
With Burns?
Yes, sir.
Good.
I'm going to hit him primarily on the money thing and then try to set him up for you to hit him on the money supply.
All right, good.
And then while we're there, make that the principal point of discussion.
But then get into this other thing and just say, now, y'all tell me how you analyze this thing.
And let both of us talk.
Let him talk.
Let me talk.
And then you say, well, let me think about this.
And then, frankly, I want to talk to Henry.
There's some foreign policy things in here.
And I want to talk to George some about this.
What I probably will do is get all of you all back together and we'll thrice this out and settle it.
And I'll give you some directions.
and maybe the next day.
Well, the next day is Thanksgiving.
Oh, that's right.
Well, maybe tomorrow afternoon.
Tomorrow afternoon, you'd call... Then call Henry.
See, I'll be gone, unfortunately, but Henry will be gone.
See, I'll be gone Friday.
I've got to go to California, see, for that Eisenhower thing.
Well, I see.
Well...
How about doing it late in the afternoon Friday?
Wednesday, I mean.
Sure, do it late tomorrow afternoon.
Is 5 o'clock all right with you?
Sure.
I'll tell you, we could do it a little earlier.
How about 4.30?
That's fine.
4.30 is... We set up a meeting then of what people?
I would say Arthur, me, George, me.
That's right, and myself.
And you.
That's all.
Okay.
4.30 for the group.
The full group.
That'll give him the feeling that he got...
He got consulted.
He got consulted.
But then at the 4.30 meeting, we should have our ducks in a row.
Yes, sir.
And I ought to lay it out there.
Yes, sir.
Fine.
That's a correction.
And I should tell him at 11.30 that I'm going to think about this thing and that we ought to get together at 4.30.
All right, I'll see that the others are informed.
And shall I see that he's told that he wants to come back at 4.30 so that he keeps the time?
Or do you want to tell him?
No, I think you better have it done from here.
Yes, sir, I think you better come from there.
Okay, I'll do that.
All right, thank you.
Thank you.
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