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Conversation 015-129

TapeTape 15StartTuesday, November 23, 1971 at 7:16 PMEndTuesday, November 23, 1971 at 7:19 PMTape start time03:52:41Tape end time03:55:39ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  White House operator;  MacGregor, ClarkRecording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

President Nixon and Clark MacGregor discuss a favorable recent Senate vote and the potential forestalling of the Cooper-Church amendment. MacGregor provides an update on the legislative schedule, noting the possibility of an early Senate adjournment, which would allow the President to depart for California sooner. Additionally, the President speaks briefly with Anna Chennault to acknowledge her ongoing fundraising efforts and express appreciation for her political support.

Senate adjournmentCooper-Church amendmentParty politicsFundraising1972 election
AudioNARA Description

On November 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 7:16 pm to 7:19 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-129 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 15-129

Date: November 23, 1971
Time: 7:16 pm - 7:19 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Clark MacGregor

The President talked with MacGregor.

     Unknown vote
         -Party breakdown

     John Sherman Cooper-Frank F. Church amendment
          -Cooper
               -Conversation with MacGregor
          -Church

     Senate adjournment
          -Schedule, 11/24
          -The President's trip to California
          -MacGregor's callback

     Anna C. Chennault

The President talked with Chennault at an unknown time.

     Air force
           -Raising money

     Expression of support

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 06/20/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
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[Duration: 5s]

       1972 election
              -Anna C. Chennault’s work on behalf of the President

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The President talked with Clark MacGregor.

     Senate adjournment
          -MacGregor's callback
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hello.
Mr. McGregor, sir.
Mr. President, I already got the news.
That was a great vote.
One of the things that I wanted to stress to you, first, I wanted to be a bringer of good news, but the party division was very helpful, Mr. President, and shows a very good trend.
37 Republicans voting with you to support your position, only five against.
Great.
The Democrats divided 34 to 17 against you.
So the Democrats 2-1 against you.
The Republicans almost 8-1 for you.
So this is a thing I've been working on, and this is a darn good development, I tell you.
That's a very good development.
It really is.
And a very good day in the care for the next few months, I think.
Right.
The spirit is good, and you're very nice to call me back, sir.
You certainly didn't need to.
The guys were happy about it, weren't they?
Oh, yeah.
And Cooper Church may not come up, huh?
It may not come up at all.
John Sherman Cooper, I talked to him twice this afternoon.
He is not going to be a party.
He will not bring it up.
He will not be a party to bringing it up.
And Frank Church deserves a lost heart.
We haven't heard anything about a Church Cooper amendment.
He's not filed it.
And time is going short, so perhaps we won't have one at all.
What's the situation tomorrow?
What time are they going to get out?
Well, they're talking, Mr. President, about staying in to finish tonight.
And if they do, it'll probably be 10.30 or 11 o'clock tonight before they finish.
And they'll have no business with any consequence tomorrow.
Probably just a perfunctory session.
And we'll probably be out by 1 or 1.30.
Oh, really?
Yes.
I hope to God that's true, then I can take off a little earlier.
Well, I can call back and leave a message there.
Oh, you call back whenever it is.
We'll know before 10 o'clock.
Okay, give me a call, will you?
All right, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you for calling.
Give my best to Anna Chanel.
Is she there?
Yes, she's right here.
I'll talk to her, yeah.
Just a second, please.
Hello.
How are you?
Mr. President?
Yes.
Oh, we are raising money for the Air Force.
You know, we believe in defense.
That's great.
And so very kind of you.
Well, you've been a great friend.
And you've been doing a wonderful job.
And you know that we're, you know, we appreciate everything you've done through the years.
Wow.
Just tell everybody to have confidence in what I'm doing.
All right, I shall.
And we keep on fighting and give you 100% support, Mr. President.
Well, you're a great lady.
We appreciate it.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I'll call later if we can get worried about an early adjournment.
If you do, bye.
Thank you, sir.
Bye.
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