{"conversationCode":"015-138","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":138,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-138","startDateTime":"1971-11-24T21:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-24T21:35:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Nov-1971","startTime":"4:35 PM","endDate":"24-Nov-1971","endTime":"4:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; White House operator;","description":"On November 24, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 4:35 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-138 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 15-138\n\nDate: November 24, 1971\nTime: 4:35 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 625-6]\n\n     John D. Ehrlichman\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 625-7]\n\n     Request for a call to Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon","filename":["015-138.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:05:35","tapeEnd":"04:05:43","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"015-137","nextCode":"015-139","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.73,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":2.75,"end":7.29,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate administrative tasks and facilitate a phone call to First Lady Pat Nixon. The brief interaction served as a logistical bridge to manage the President's personal and official communications for the afternoon. No significant policy decisions were reached during this exchange.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Stephen B. Bull","White House logistics","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:23:43.188Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","stephen-b-bull","white-house-logistics","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":8,"audioFiles":[{"file":"015-138.mp3","bytes":183692,"durationSec":7.58,"bitrate":193841,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.618Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/015-138.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-138","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/15/conversation-015-138","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}