{"conversationCode":"015-164","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":164,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-164","startDateTime":"1971-11-29T22:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-29T22:35:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Nov-1971","startTime":"5:05 PM","endDate":"29-Nov-1971","endTime":"5:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On November 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:05 pm and 5:35 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 015-164 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 15-164\n\nDate: November 29, 1971\n\fTime: Unknown between 5:05 pm and 5:35 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator; the President conferred with Charles W.\nColson before the conversation begins.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 306-10L]\n\n     Request for a call to Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["015-164.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:31:14","tapeEnd":"04:31:26","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"015-163","nextCode":"015-165","transcript":[{"start":0.98,"end":2.1,"text":"Pulled out there."},{"start":3.1,"end":8.2,"text":"All right, though Yeah, could you get Mr. Ziegler for me, please?"},{"start":8.22,"end":9.04,"text":"Thank you, sir"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated a request to speak with White House Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler via the telephone operator. Charles W. Colson was present with the President during the preliminary arrangements for this call. The primary purpose of the contact was to facilitate direct communication with Ziegler regarding administrative or press-related matters.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","Charles W. Colson","White House communications","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:26:04.180Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","charles-w-colson","white-house-communications","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"015-164.mp3","bytes":288390,"durationSec":11.96,"bitrate":192932,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.619Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/015-164.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/015-164","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/15/conversation-015-164","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}