{"conversationCode":"015-173","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":173,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-173","startDateTime":"1971-11-29T23:22:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-29T23:28:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Nov-1971","startTime":"6:22 PM","endDate":"29-Nov-1971","endTime":"6:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On November 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 6:22 pm to 6:28 pm. 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Hallett\n\n     Prices\n           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                -Shopping event\n                     -Publicity aspect","filename":["015a.mp3","015b.mp3","015c.mp3","015d.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:40:49","tapeEnd":"04:42:42","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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Ar un peth, wrth gwrs, mae posibiliad arall yw cyflwyno'r adnodd"},{"start":16911.11,"end":16914.45,"text":"Rwy'n credu y byddwn ni'n gallu cyflawni'r ffordd fwyaf o'r ddau bywydau."},{"start":16914.47,"end":16918.23,"text":"Rwy'n credu y byddwn ni'n gallu cyflawni'r ffordd fwyaf o'r ddau bywydau."},{"start":16918.25,"end":16925.17,"text":"Rwy'n credu y byddwn ni'n gallu cyflawni'r ffordd fwyaf o'r ddau bywydau."},{"start":16925.19,"end":16928.99,"text":"Rwy'n credu y byddwn ni'n gallu cyflawni'r ffordd fwyaf o'r ddau bywydau."},{"start":16929.03,"end":16931.69,"text":"Rwy'n credu y byddwn ni'n gallu cyflawni'r ffordd fwyaf o'r ddau bywydau."},{"start":16936.09,"end":16937.65,"text":"ond mae'r peth amgylcheddol yn rhaid ei wneud."},{"start":16937.69,"end":16937.79,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":16937.81,"end":16939.13,"text":"Tax ar gyfer cyfnod cyffredinol."},{"start":16939.15,"end":16939.19,"text":"Ie."},{"start":16939.21,"end":16940.23,"text":"Byddai hynny'n ffordd unigol i'w wneud."},{"start":16940.25,"end":16942.31,"text":"Wel, byddai hynny'n ei wneud yn ddiddorol, byddwn i'n meddwl."},{"start":16942.33,"end":16946.12,"text":"Roedd y cyfarfod wedi colli ychydig bryd yn ôl ac roedden nhw'n ffermio am fachiau dechnolegol."},{"start":16946.14,"end":16951.52,"text":"Doedden nhw ddim gwneud penderfyniadau ac roedden nhw'n hir i ddechrau oherwydd roedd Wally Bennett wedi mynd i'r ysbytl."},{"start":16951.56,"end":16951.62,"text":"Ie."},{"start":16957.93,"end":16958.05,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":16958.25,"end":16958.39,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":16958.41,"end":16958.55,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":16958.65,"end":16958.85,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":16959.37,"end":16959.47,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":16959.51,"end":16959.59,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":16959.63,"end":16959.87,"text":"Iawn."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":16848.875,"end":16962,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss legislative strategy regarding the tax bill, specifically focusing on the campaign check-off provision. 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