{"conversationCode":"015-176","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":176,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-176","startDateTime":"1971-11-30T20:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-30T20:58:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Nov-1971","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"30-Nov-1971","endTime":"3:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; MacGregor, Clark;","description":"On November 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 3:55 pm to 3:58 pm. 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Mills\n                -Conversation with [Arthur E.?] Summerfield\n                      -White House identification\n          -Distribution\n                -Administration stand\n                -Democrats\n                      -Debt\n                -Press play\n\n     Campaign check-off provision of Tax Bill\n         -Press reaction to the President's stand\n               -Detroit News\n               -Detroit Free Press\n               -Denver Post","filename":["015a.mp3","015b.mp3","015c.mp3","015d.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:42:54","tapeEnd":"04:46:00","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","MacGregor, Clark"],"prevCode":"015-175","nextCode":"015-177","tapeTranscriptFile":"015a.mp3,015b.mp3,015c.mp3,015d.mp3","transcript":[{"start":16981.21,"end":16985.79,"text":"Ies sir, nid wyf wedi gweld llawer ar y ffyrdd, yn anffodus, ond... Ies, ond roeddech chi'n ei alw."},{"start":16985.97,"end":16992.84,"text":"Ies, sir, ac roedden ni'n ei alw'n llawer ohonyn nhw, ac roedden nhw'n mynd i fynd allan gyda sbethau un munud ac yn rhoi rhywbeth ymlaen yn y gallarau pres, ond nid ydyn nhw'n cymryd hynny'n llawn."},{"start":16992.86,"end":16994.22,"text":"Rwy'n gwybod nad ydyn nhw'n cymryd hynny."},{"start":16994.4,"end":16997.68,"text":"Wel, dim ond er mwyn i ni gael ychydig o lepcutwyr a chymryd rhan o'r gyllideb."},{"start":16999.62,"end":17005.26,"text":"Rydyn ni wedi cymryd yn y Senedd, chi'n gwybod, heno gyda peth o McGee Ffong ar... Ychydig a chwe."},{"start":17005.28,"end":17005.32,"text":"Ie, 5.5."},{"start":17005.5,"end":17005.84,"text":"Ie, sir."},{"start":17005.9,"end":17007.4,"text":"I gyflogwyr Llywodraeth."},{"start":17007.44,"end":17010.58,"text":"I ddechrau nawr, ym mis Ionawr."},{"start":17010.6,"end":17011.14,"text":"Ym mis Ionawr, ie."},{"start":17011.16,"end":17012.53,"text":"Wel, rydyn ni'n parhau yno ar hynny."},{"start":17020.12,"end":17021,"text":"Beth yw'r lline?"},{"start":17021.02,"end":17021.76,"text":"A fydd hynny'n mynd i'r Cymru?"},{"start":17021.78,"end":17027.38,"text":"Ie, felly roedd hynny'n cael ei ychwanegu ar y Senat, ar y Ddeddf Stabilio Economaidd."},{"start":17027.42,"end":17035.78,"text":"Ac wrth gwrs, nid yw'r Cymru wedi cael hynny ar y llyfr, felly byddai'n cael ei ystyried yn y Cymru, ac yna byddwn yn mynd i gyfnod."},{"start":17035.8,"end":17038.49,"text":"Felly mae gennym ni rhai diwrnod i ffwrdd o hynny."},{"start":17038.57,"end":17041.35,"text":"Efallai y byddai hynny'n gwneud yn bosibl y Ddeddf Stabilio Economaidd."},{"start":17041.45,"end":17042.09,"text":"I symud trwyddo, ie."},{"start":17042.13,"end":17042.33,"text":"Ie, ie."},{"start":17042.61,"end":17046.33,"text":"Diolch yn fawr nad yw'r rhai hynny'n mynd i fynd i fyny i fyny ar gyfer"},{"start":17047.56,"end":17048.32,"text":"Mae'n edrych fel hynny."},{"start":17048.36,"end":17055.37,"text":"Mae Mansfield yn parhau i siarad am ddiwedd y wythnos hon, ac mae'r rhan fwyaf o bawb yn disgwyl diwedd y wythnos nesaf, ond mewn gwirionedd, dwi ddim yn gweld sut y gallan nhw ddod allan o hyn o'r blaen."},{"start":17055.41,"end":17055.55,"text":"Ie, ie."},{"start":17055.61,"end":17061.65,"text":"Wel, yn arbennig os ydyn nhw'n ffurfio'n ymwneud â'r adnodd ariannol hwnnw,"},{"start":17065.31,"end":17067.99,"text":"Rwy'n credu nad oes gennym unrhyw ddewis ond y sesiwn ychwanegol."},{"start":17068.01,"end":17068.81,"text":"Nid ydych chi'n credu hynny?"},{"start":17068.83,"end":17069.64,"text":"Rwy'n credu hynny."},{"start":17069.66,"end":17079.23,"text":"Os ydyn nhw'n mynd allan, os ydych chi'n cyhoeddi eich adroddiad ystod y wythnos pan fydd y cyhoedd yn adrodd, efallai y byddant yn parhau i ddod i mewn ac felly nid ydyn nhw'n ysgrifennu'n cael eu galw'n ôl."},{"start":17079.27,"end":17080.47,"text":"Efallai y byddant yn parhau i ddod i mewn."},{"start":17081.61,"end":17105.62,"text":"Mae'n anodd bod un o'r bobl yn y cyfarfodydd wedi adrodd bod Wilbur Mills, pan oedd wedi darllen statement MacGregor gyda'ch awdurdod, wedi dweud, Wel, nid yw hynny'n statement anodd, oherwydd rwy'n credu ei fod wedi'i ddysgu'n anghywir, gan feddwl efallai ei fod wedi'i ddysgu'n anghywir, gan feddwl ei fod wedi'i ddysgu'n anghywir, gan feddwl ei fod wedi'i ddysgu'n anghywir, gan feddwl ei fod wedi'i ddysgu'n anghywir, gan feddwl ei fod wedi'i ddysgu'n anghywir, gan feddwl ei fod wedi'i ddysgu'n anghywir, gan fed"},{"start":17109.05,"end":17109.69,"text":"Ydw, Prif Weinidog?"},{"start":17109.71,"end":17109.97,"text":"Ydw."},{"start":17110.03,"end":17110.61,"text":"Mae gen i Julie."},{"start":17110.67,"end":17110.99,"text":"Ydw."},{"start":17111.01,"end":17112.19,"text":"Dyma chi."},{"start":17112.38,"end":17119.88,"text":"Ydw, Prif Weinidog."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":16974,"end":17119.875,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Clark MacGregor discussed the legislative status of the Economic Stabilization Act and the prospects for concluding the current congressional session. 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