{"conversationCode":"015-195","tapeNumber":15,"conversationNumber":195,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-015-195","startDateTime":"1971-12-02T14:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-02T14:38:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Dec-1971","startTime":"9:32 AM","endDate":"2-Dec-1971","endTime":"9:38 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On December 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 9:32 am to 9:38 am. 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O'Brien\n               -Conference papers\n                    -Senate\n                    -Rejection in House\n                    -House vote\n          -George Meany\n               -Support\n               -Health\n\n     Congress\n         -Foreign aid conference\n         -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] conference report\n         -Probable defeat of Tax Bill in House\n         -Allen J. Ellender\n         -India-Pakistan conflict\n               -William P. Rogers\n\n     The President's Florida trip\n          -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo's conversations with Haldeman and the President\n               -Weather\n\n     Check-off provision legislation\n         -Possible statement by the President\n               -Gerald R. Ford\n               -Taxpayer expense\n               -MacGregor\n                     -Haldeman's return call","filename":["015a.mp3","015b.mp3","015c.mp3","015d.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:34:30","tapeEnd":"05:40:29","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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(\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"015-194","nextCode":"015-196","tapeTranscriptFile":"015a.mp3,015b.mp3,015c.mp3,015d.mp3","transcript":[{"start":20070,"end":20079.54,"text":"Yn ymwneud â'r cynlluniau a chyfeirio arnyn nhw, mae'n rhaid i ni wneud cyfeirio arnyn nhw."},{"start":20079.56,"end":20083.3,"text":"Yn ymwneud â'r cynlluniau a chyfeirio arnyn nhw, mae'n rhaid i ni wneud cyfeirio arnyn nhw."},{"start":20084.28,"end":20109.6,"text":"Nid, nid yw hynny'n bwysig i mi oherwydd mae'n llwyddo'ch ystyried a'i roi ar y Cyngor, ac mae'r Cyngor yn mynd i'w wneud yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd, yn ddau mlynedd"},{"start":20111.06,"end":20116.64,"text":"Iawn, unwaith y byddwch chi'n ceisio rhywbeth, byddaf yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":20116.66,"end":20122.3,"text":"Cofiwch i mi ysgrifennu'r paragraff."},{"start":20122.74,"end":20126.68,"text":"Iawn, byddaf yn gwneud hynny."},{"start":20126.78,"end":20127.2,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20128.24,"end":20128.33,"text":"Ie."},{"start":20128.44,"end":20128.53,"text":"Ie."},{"start":20183.24,"end":20183.84,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20183.86,"end":20184,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20184.14,"end":20184.5,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20184.92,"end":20186.86,"text":"Diolch yn fawr iawn."},{"start":20186.88,"end":20189.06,"text":"Iawn, diolch yn fawr iawn."},{"start":20189.1,"end":20192.48,"text":"Rwy'n cael rhywfaint o'r llygaid nawr."},{"start":20192.52,"end":20192.6,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20192.62,"end":20203.82,"text":"Ac nid yw'n ymwneud â rhaglenni arbennig o'r cyfarfod, oherwydd mae'r ddau adnoddau hyn yn ymwneud â'r rhaglenni, ond nid yw'n cael eu rhannu'n wahanol, felly rydyn ni wedi'u ffraiddio'n wahanol."},{"start":20204.14,"end":20208.67,"text":"Mae'n cymryd lle i'r ddau cyfarfod cyntaf ar ben 12."},{"start":20209.37,"end":20222.35,"text":"Mae unrhyw drafodaeth o gyfrifoldebau am ddelio â phroblemau ymddygiadau ddim yn cael ei gyflawni heb cydnabod cefnogaeth gorfforol ar gyfer cyflawni cymdeithasau Medicare i gynnwys grwpiau presgripsi, ac ar gyfer cynyddu'r cyfnod o ran y mae'r flwyddyn o ganlyniad yn cael ei effeithio o fewn HR1."},{"start":20222.37,"end":20226.38,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i ni ysgrifennu un peth heb cydnabod cefnogaeth gorfforol yn ymddangos yn y cyfnod hon."},{"start":20227.19,"end":20227.38,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20227.4,"end":20231.22,"text":"Ymddangos yn y cyfnod hon."},{"start":20231.24,"end":20231.42,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20231.44,"end":20233.62,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20242.21,"end":20242.49,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20242.51,"end":20242.75,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20243.35,"end":20243.91,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20243.97,"end":20244.07,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20244.15,"end":20244.53,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20244.67,"end":20244.89,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20244.91,"end":20245.33,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20268.48,"end":20280.77,"text":"Fel rydych chi'n gwybod, mae'r cysylltiadau hyn... Fel rydych chi'n gwybod, mae'r cysylltiadau hyn yn cynnwys broblemau budded yn anodd iawn i'r Llywodraeth."},{"start":20280.83,"end":20290.81,"text":"Fodd bynnag, oherwydd yr hyn rydych chi wedi ei ysgrifennu yn y newidiadau sydd wedi'u cynnig, byddaf yn cyfeirio'r Cyngor Domestig i ystyried y ddewisiadau a gwneud cyfeiriadau i mi ar ddiwedd cyntaf."},{"start":20290.83,"end":20294.4,"text":"Mae hyn yn rhan o fy mhrofiad personol i chi."},{"start":20294.42,"end":20295.26,"text":"Nid wyf yn codi'r... Iawn."},{"start":20298.46,"end":20311.24,"text":"Rwy'n mynd i fynd i fynd i fynd."},{"start":20311.26,"end":20311.48,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20311.56,"end":20312.66,"text":"Rwy'n mynd i fynd."},{"start":20312.7,"end":20313.52,"text":"Rwy'n mynd i fynd."},{"start":20313.54,"end":20315.16,"text":"Rwy'n mynd i fynd."},{"start":20315.18,"end":20317.01,"text":"Rwy'n mynd i fynd."},{"start":20317.06,"end":20325.93,"text":"Rwy'n mynd i fynd."},{"start":20334.35,"end":20336,"text":"Na, dwi ddim yn credu hynny."},{"start":20336.28,"end":20341.94,"text":"Rydyn ni eisoes wedi dweud iddyn nhw fod yn bwysig o amser John."},{"start":20341.98,"end":20342.16,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20342.52,"end":20342.78,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20342.8,"end":20343.06,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20343.16,"end":20343.4,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20343.42,"end":20343.64,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20343.78,"end":20344.5,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20345.28,"end":20349.48,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20352.52,"end":20352.92,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20353.36,"end":20354.54,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20357.17,"end":20358.4,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20360.97,"end":20361.95,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20362.01,"end":20362.09,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":20363.01,"end":20370.43,"text":"Dwi eisiau gwybod y statws o'r peth tax, oherwydd dwi ddim eisiau, bydd hynny'n digwyddiol a ydw i'n penderfynu a ydw i'n penderfynu'r peth Florida neu ddim."},{"start":20370.45,"end":20376.32,"text":"Iawn, fe siaradais â Mark am y cwestiwn o Florida."},{"start":20376.36,"end":20389.98,"text":"Roedd yn dweud nad oes unrhyw broblem ar unrhyw gweithgaredd yn y Cynulliad ac mewn gwirionedd byddai'n gweithredu efallai y byddech chi'n mynd, os ydych yn gweithio ar y cyllideb."},{"start":20391.11,"end":20399.21,"text":"Mae'r peth allan yw'r gweithgaredd a bydd y Cymru i gyd yn y wythnos nesaf yn y gweithgaredd."},{"start":20399.25,"end":20401.45,"text":"Mae'r syniad ymchwil yn cael ei wneud."},{"start":20401.49,"end":20406.07,"text":"Mae'r cynllun yw y bydd y gweithgarwyr yn debatio'r peth ymchwil yn fawr."},{"start":20407.07,"end":20413.78,"text":"Yn ystod y diwrnod, bydd y gweithgarwyr Cymru yn cael eu cymryd o'u cynnydd i'r ymchwil a'i gwerthfawr."},{"start":20414.78,"end":20419.42,"text":"yn penderfynol o'r pwysau a'r holl bethau eraill o'r busnes."},{"start":20419.54,"end":20425.59,"text":"Yn ymwneud â'r hynny, bydd Nils wedi cyflawni ei gyfrifoedd i'r rhan a'r drafodaeth a wnaeth ei wneud gyda O'Brien ac ati."},{"start":20425.61,"end":20429,"text":"Fodd bynnag, bydd y papurau yn mynd i'r Cymru, nid i'r Senedd, y papurau ymwneud â'r cyfweliad."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":20070,"end":20429,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with H. 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