Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 016-002
Date: Sunday, December 5, 1971 at 7:31 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; [Unknown person(s)]
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/016-002

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[0:01] Hi.
[0:01] Hello.
[0:02] Rose?
[0:04] Yes, sir.
[0:05] How are you?
[0:10] Fine, thanks.
[0:11] How are you?
[0:16] Oh, fine.
[0:16] Just a second.
[0:16] Uh, incidentally, I talked to Pat, and she's going to go up to the McCormick funeral in the morning.
[0:26] Oh, isn't that nice?
[0:27] So that's very nice, and I told him to get the damn thing out so that people will know she's coming.
[0:29] I told Coffee, I don't know whether he...
[0:31] can get it, but I think it's important they know up there she's coming, you know?
[0:37] Oh, well, he'll get it out.
[0:37] He's very capable.
[0:38] No, I know he is, but I just want him to know that I don't want it done low-key.
[0:45] Yeah.
[0:46] Not in this instance.
[0:48] She's doing this, and it's a very nice thing for her to do.
[0:53] She's going to leave with Albert at 9 o'clock in the morning from South Lawn.
[0:55] Sure it is.
[0:55] Right.
[0:55] Oh, well, I think that's very good.
[0:57] Right.
[0:57] Let me ask you this.
[0:59] About the...
[1:01] What kind of stuff do you have in mind to bring in in the morning?
[1:05] Well, I'm allowed to go now that the Haldeman called, so I said to have it be longer.
[1:10] Ray was going to send me over some selected things they were going to pick out that would be of interest.
[1:17] Mail and things as well.
[1:18] Well, you just use your judgment.
[1:20] We'll just chit-chat because they'll only use a minute anyway.
[1:23] That's right.
[1:24] And we'll find something interesting to talk about.
[1:26] But if you think of something that...
[1:28] somebody to call, some old friend or somebody who's sick.
[1:32] That's the kind of thing.
[1:33] Something that's more, I don't want it so programmatic.
[1:36] We've got a lot of programming.
[1:38] I know.
[1:39] Do you think of something that's warm and interesting?
[1:42] I mean, like that picture you did.
[1:44] That's a very good idea.
[1:46] And that'll be good.
[1:50] I think that and I'll try to do that.
[1:52] Now, on the dinner tomorrow night,
[1:55] Did we finally get Chancellor in or not?
[1:58] Well, you said to get him in.
[2:02] Well, as I understood, David's opposite number didn't come.
[2:07] That's right.
[2:07] So I had not told David he was not coming.
[2:10] Wait a minute.
[2:12] If his opposite number didn't come, that leaves one vacancy.
[2:15] Is that right or not?
[2:16] Well, we'll have to tell him tomorrow that it does.
[2:19] But we still have one seat if the Vice President isn't coming.
[2:21] We don't know.
[2:22] He doesn't get back to us tomorrow.
[2:27] And we can always .
[2:30] Well, I don't know whether you have the room or not.
[2:32] That's the problem.
[2:33] Well, I mean, we can work out telling somebody that they can't come.
[2:39] I have, having invited David, I mean, he's an awful nice guy.
[2:42] I mean, I don't like to disinvite anybody if there's room for them.
[2:46] Well, that's why we'll just have to wait till I can get back tomorrow and find out.
[2:52] I don't know.
[2:53] I don't know.
[2:53] We tried, but maybe that's the way it is.
[2:56] There's one other problem we have on it.
[2:59] It's Schultz, because he was supposed to be included and for some reason was not.
[3:06] Oh, they weren't meant to be included.
[3:10] Well, I know.
[3:11] I'm sure that they didn't.
[3:13] But we could, who could we take off?
[3:17] Well, we could probably take somebody off on that to get him in.
[3:19] The only problem is that it's just the international monetary thing that's being discussed.
[3:25] You have to have Schultz, Connolly, and...
[3:28] Yeah, that's right.
[3:34] That's why they're coming.
[3:38] No?
[3:38] I think we could take Flanagan off.
[3:39] Probably.
[3:39] He's the one who suggested, you know, that he's been dealing with riches.
[3:46] Did he talk to you?
[3:47] He didn't care, no.
[3:48] No, it just makes it easier for them to work on their negotiations.
[3:53] Well, that's Schultz's point.
[3:56] I'll tell you, all these guys, you know.
[3:57] I know, they're all
[3:58] Well, I mean, it's true to an extent.
[4:03] Yeah.
[4:03] Well, I think the one we can take off is going to, if Agnes comes, well, we've got to get it off.
[4:11] Well, we can... Tell me the table.
[4:15] You said you wanted that rectangular one, and it will hold 36.
[4:21] 36.
[4:21] All right.
[4:22] We wanted to use that, and if you change the whole thing, then you've got to change the whole character of the thing.
[4:30] So the 36 is the correct number.
[4:31] So what do you think you could do with that?
[4:32] Well, I'll find out if there's any way possible without it being too crowded.
[4:38] They have 37.
[4:39] No, limit it to 36.
[4:40] Drop Flanagan or David, one of the two.
[4:43] Schultz, I think, has to come, though, because of the inner problem.
[4:50] Yeah, I can see that.
[4:51] You see, he ranks Flanagan.
[4:56] You see, that's the problem.
[4:59] He and Peterson and the others.
[5:00] Peterson, of course, is in this particular field, but so is Flanagan, for that matter.
[5:06] Yeah.
[5:06] Well, yeah, because Flanagan's the only one that's been dealing with it.
[5:09] Yeah.
[5:09] But we'll... Well, I'll tell you.
[5:14] Peterson, I mean, Flanagan would more understand being left off than Peterson, too.
[5:18] You couldn't leave him off.
[5:19] So I think you...
[5:20] I think you've got to get Schultz on one way or another.
[5:24] And David, I think you can leave off.
[5:26] There's no problem.
[5:27] You can simply say your opposite number isn't coming, and George Schultz's is.
[5:32] And consequently, we respectfully like for you not to come.
[5:36] Wouldn't that be all right?
[5:37] I think so.
[5:38] I just put a cold turkey to him.
[5:40] I think someone who knows him is going to have to talk to him.
[5:46] I've never even met him.
[5:46] Call somebody.
[5:47] Have Holden call him.
[5:48] You can call him.
[5:50] Because you're opposite number, we've got to do that, and you've got to put Schultz in, and you understand, okay?
[5:55] Sure.
[5:55] All right, fine.
[5:59] We only have one more left, I think.
[6:01] I've just met a chain, and that's the last.
[6:03] Yeah.
[6:04] Is that one filled up now, I hope?
[6:06] Oh, yeah.
[6:09] Anybody's coming?
[6:15] You know, quite a few.
[6:16] We have had to add quite a few.
[6:17] We did have?
[6:18] Yeah, we added.
[6:21] Well, look, we've done awfully well, though.
[6:40] You've invited them.
[6:40] I know several of these people they raise questions about.
[6:43] But I find every time I check, you've invited them three or four times.
[7:00] It's not a question of our fault.
[7:01] It's a question of their not being available.
[7:04] That's the thing of being there.
[7:06] We have really gone around the track so often.
[7:07] I know some of those people.
[7:09] Well, is that the one where we're going to have Clem Stone, the violinist, piano player?
[7:11] No, it's a little piano.
[7:14] I heard about that.
[7:19] Oh, well.
[7:22] So useful to us.
[7:25] So loyal.
[7:27] My goodness.
[7:28] That's right.
[7:28] Ten times some of the others.
[7:58] Okay, well then we're all set for tomorrow.
[8:01] That's right.
[8:01] All right, bye.