{"conversationCode":"016-032","tapeNumber":16,"conversationNumber":32,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-016-032","startDateTime":"1971-12-07T04:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-07T04:12:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Dec-1971","startTime":"11:11 PM","endDate":"6-Dec-1971","endTime":"11:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On December 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:11 pm and 11:12 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 016-032 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 16-32\n\nDate: December 6, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:11 pm and 11:12 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n     Instructions to Kissinger\n           -Ronald L. Ziegler\n           -Forthcoming call to John B. Connally\n                 -William P. Rogers\n\n     Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]\n          -Note\n               -Full text\n               -Unknown minister\n\n     Kissinger’s return call to the President\n          -Connally","filename":["016-032.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:05:40","tapeEnd":"01:06:23","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"016-031","nextCode":"016-033","transcript":[{"start":1.45,"end":1.75,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.41,"end":18.03,"text":"I'd like for you to try something, just a suggestion."},{"start":18.05,"end":19.94,"text":"We know so much about these things."},{"start":19.96,"end":20.9,"text":"I'd like for you to give Connie a call."},{"start":20.92,"end":22.08,"text":"Just to say that, you might say, I was a little concerned."},{"start":22.1,"end":24.7,"text":"I just wondered whether he thought that Rogers would..."},{"start":24.97,"end":26.52,"text":"Do you think you could do that?"},{"start":26.6,"end":28.22,"text":"Of course, I'll do it this minute."},{"start":28.24,"end":29.04,"text":"Call him and call me back."},{"start":29.06,"end":30.52,"text":"See if he gets the point."},{"start":30.54,"end":31.23,"text":"Right."},{"start":31.25,"end":36.42,"text":"I now have the full text of the Soviet note, and now the Soviet minister has brought it by."},{"start":36.44,"end":36.72,"text":"I see."},{"start":36.74,"end":42.49,"text":"And I'll call you after I've talked to him."},{"start":42.59,"end":42.71,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed Henry Kissinger to contact Treasury Secretary John Connally to gauge his opinion regarding Secretary of State William Rogers’s performance. Nixon aimed to assess Connally's perspective on Rogers through this indirect communication channel. Additionally, Kissinger informed the President that he had received the full text of a recent Soviet diplomatic note, promising a follow-up report after further review.","topics":["John B. Connally","William P. Rogers","Soviet Union","Diplomacy","Cabinet relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:32:26.879Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-b-connally","william-p-rogers","soviet-union","diplomacy","cabinet-relations"],"audioDurationSec":43,"audioFiles":[{"file":"016-032.mp3","bytes":1040717,"durationSec":43.3,"bitrate":192267,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.619Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/016-032.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/016-032","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/16/conversation-016-032","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}