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Conversation 016-084

TapeTape 16StartFriday, December 10, 1971 at 5:15 PMEndFriday, December 10, 1971 at 5:17 PMTape start time03:14:10Tape end time03:16:07ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Griffin, Robert P.;  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On December 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Robert P. Griffin, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 5:15 pm to 5:17 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 016-084 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 16-84

Date: December 10, 1971
Time: 5:15 pm - 5:17 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Robert Griffin.

The President conferred with an unknown person [H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman?].

[See Conversation No. 636-9B]

     Appointment
          -William Rehnquist
                -Senate vote
                     -Compared to Louis D. Brandeis and Charles Evans Hughes
                     -Clark MacGregor
     Senate
          -President’s veto [Economic Opportunity Amendments of 1971]
                -Possible sustenance
                -House of Representatives
          -Tax bill
                -Charles J. Chamberlain
                -John B. Connally
                -Vote
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Senator Griffin.
Hello.
Mr. President?
Yeah.
We have to wait until the 15 minutes runs out until they officially announce it, but the vote right now stands 68 to 26, so I think you can make your phone call.
68 to 26, good.
Incidentally, Bob, you've got a minute.
I just had, from memory, I didn't have this, some other votes where they had them.
Would you like to take them down in case you're asking to make a statement?
Sure.
Brandeis was 47 to 22.
Uh-huh.
47 to 22.
So this is about the same magnitude.
Uh-huh.
And Chief Justice Hughes, this is a surprise to me, 52 to 26.
Oh, yeah.
So you probably remember that from your experience, but the Hughes one was just 2 to 1.
Yeah.
What was it, 68 to?
68 to 26.
68 to 26.
So it's officially announced.
There might be another senator to drag in here, say, but we'll give Clark the final say.
That's a great vote, great vote.
a whopping majority.
Right.
Incidentally, we may sustain your veto here in the Senate.
Really?
Yeah, we're pretty close.
We've got about 29 sure votes on our side, and if we get any there or from the other side at all, we'll make it.
Yeah, well, that's great.
So that'd be good if you didn't have to go to the House for that.
I was certainly glad you could come down on the tax thing.
After all, you were the... Quite a lot to me.
You're the mother of that, if you want to call him that, of that, you and Charlie Chamber.
Remember we talked about it?
Oh, you bet I do.
Do I ever.
You fellows probably didn't think anything was going to happen either.
Shows you we do things down there, don't we?
That's right.
You've got to hand John Connolly a lot on this, too, you know.
He's a fighter.
The final vote was 68 to 26.
Good.
All right, thank you.
You bet.
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