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Conversation 016-122

TapeTape 16StartSunday, December 19, 1971 at 6:49 PMEndSunday, December 19, 1971 at 6:50 PMTape start time04:25:20Tape end time04:28:01ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On December 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 6:49 pm to 6:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 016-122 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 16-122

Date: December 19, 1971
Time: 6:49 pm - 6:50 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Press
             -Time interview
                  -Success of interview
                  -Jerrold L. Schecter
                  -Hedley W. Donovan
                  -Henry A. Grunwald
                  -Interview
                         -Impressions
                  -Newsletters
                         -Campaign
                         -South Asia
                               -Overview
             -Ziegler’s talk with Schecter
                  -Donovan impression
                         -Interview
                               -Mood
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Hi, Ron.
Well, they said it went an hour and a half.
Oh, it did?
That long?
Yeah.
They were very pleased.
They were also pleased with the money clip you gave them for the new dollar.
Yeah, yeah.
But, of course, Runewald and Donovan, as you can suspect, were less restrained than, excuse me, more restrained than the sighting at Checker.
But they were very pleased with it.
uh, even Grunwald, uh, felt it was very strong and, uh, very thoughtful and, uh, very productive session.
And I think there's going to be some news out of it, too.
Yeah.
The part, uh... About not campaigning?
Well, that whole thing, yes, sir.
Yeah, I know that.
Well, the, uh, part during the, uh, you know, not campaigning indeed part, uh, to maintain the non-candidacy as president, too.
That's right.
I thought this was a pretty good place to put that in.
Yes, sir.
And that will carry big.
They were also pleased on the section of South Asia.
Your impressions of the President Schechter and the statics on that.
The general overview of the office of the President.
So,
And then I talked to Schechter by phone later.
He called me back after he got out of the presence of the ball, and he talked more freely to me.
He told me what they said, you know, amongst themselves.
And Donovan was particularly positive about how strong and thoughtful and...
relaxed you were, and confident, and apparently...
The mood is more important than what we say, anyway.
Well, the mood apparently was just that, because they did refer to that, as I say, in terms of thoughtful, reflective, and confident.
They've got all this stuff.
So, an hour and a half is far more than that.
Right, that's enough.
But I told them, I told the sector, I said...
Right, good.
That's good.
That leads us up to that spot.
Okay, fine.
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