Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 017-032 Date: Friday, December 24, 1971 at 5:20 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/017-032 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Hello? [0:05] Secretary Rogers, returning your call. [0:08] Hello, Mr. President. [0:09] Hello, Mr. President. [0:12] You got a shower, huh? [0:14] Well, I just called to wish you a Merry Christmas and to tell you that I was delighted that you were going down the plane with us Sunday night, huh? [0:21] Yeah, Sunday night. [0:21] Yeah, Sunday night. [0:22] That's what I meant. [0:24] I'm going to wait. [0:24] I'm going at 8 o'clock. [0:25] I wanted to wait and see the football game. [0:27] I'm glad. [0:27] And, of course, Patterson's going, but... [0:29] you bring a towel with you. [0:34] There'll be plenty of room. [0:35] Yeah, well, that's fine. [0:36] I thought at the end, because we're going to be there. [0:40] Well, you might have thought that an extra day in that way. [0:42] Sure, that's fine. [0:42] Good, and I thought you were excellent in your press conference. [0:44] I didn't see it, but Colson gave me a report. [0:45] He talked to me extremely well. [0:46] Got a good play on it. [0:46] Excellent play. [0:47] Yeah, you know, when you think about it, we got quite a record. [0:52] I summarized the record, and it's a firm record when you think about it. [0:59] God darn right. [1:05] And I tell you, everybody in the place was friendly. [1:07] I didn't have a hostile person. [1:08] I mean, you had a big group. [1:08] Yeah. [1:08] It was the right time to have it, too. [1:10] It was only a coincidence. [1:11] We hadn't thought of it, you know. [1:12] The hopper release occurred the same day, or it would have been the lead, but that's all right. [1:14] It was good that we had another story with Hoffa. [1:26] Yeah, I think that too. [1:26] No, I think it worked out fine. [1:27] Incidentally, the Hoffa thing, we had to do with a reason that I wanted to get it over with. [1:29] Now, the patrol bar was bound to let him out in June, and I didn't want him to come back soon. [1:31] So, yeah. [1:32] Well, I think it was a good thing. [1:32] And the poor guy, he looked like hell, they told me. [1:33] And the wife is, you know... [1:34] it desperately. [1:40] Well, after a man that served almost five years, the rest of it is just cool and inhuman punishment. [1:49] It really is. [1:49] You've got degradation. [1:50] And also, another thing we did, we put a condition on it that he could not participate in any labor activities until 1983. [1:56] Well, now, what the heck? [1:57] I don't think anybody wants more except the New York Times. [1:59] Well, I hope you have a great Christmas. [2:00] I'm going to watch football. [2:01] Okay, Mr. President. [2:04] Thank you.