{"conversationCode":"017-064","tapeNumber":17,"conversationNumber":64,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-017-064","startDateTime":"1971-12-25T14:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-25T14:56:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Dec-1971","startTime":"9:53 AM","endDate":"25-Dec-1971","endTime":"9:56 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Romney, Lenore L.; Romney, George W.;","description":"On December 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Lenore L. Romney, and George W. Romney talked on the telephone from 9:53 am to 9:56 am. 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Romney.\n\n     Christmas greetings\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 12/21/2017.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[017-064-w001]\n[Duration: 58s]\n\n     Women in politics\n        -Lenore Romney\n              -Pat Nixon, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, Tricia Nixon Cox\n              -Potential candidacy\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n     Julie Nixon Eisenhower's television show\n           “Christmas at the White House”\n           -Grandmother\n           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                -Praise for show\n\n     Romney’s location\n\n     Romney’s family\n\n     Football\n\n     Christmas greetings\n\n     Housing\n         -John D. Ehrlichman\n         -Romney's meeting with the President\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Florida\n                -Meeting with Willy Brandt\n          -Romney’s proposed meeting with Ehrlichman","filename":["017-064.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:44:20","tapeEnd":"02:47:24","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Romney, Lenore L.","Romney, George W."],"prevCode":"017-063","nextCode":"017-065","transcript":[{"start":2.04,"end":2.38,"text":"No."},{"start":2.6,"end":4.61,"text":"Secretary Romney, Mr. President."},{"start":4.63,"end":5.07,"text":"Charge."},{"start":5.67,"end":9.55,"text":"Pat and I wanted to send our best to Lenore and you, and..."},{"start":67.92,"end":76.71,"text":"We sat last night at 11 o'clock and watched the TV show and we thought it was tremendous."},{"start":76.73,"end":78.17,"text":"Oh, you saw Julie, did you?"},{"start":78.19,"end":78.81,"text":"Yes, you."},{"start":78.83,"end":79.02,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":79.04,"end":80.54,"text":"I didn't look because I never watch this stuff, but I..."},{"start":80.56,"end":83.1,"text":"I think Julie, she's a... We think she's got a lot of poise, I think."},{"start":96.4,"end":97.4,"text":"Yeah, you..."},{"start":97.91,"end":116.22,"text":"I think most people would remember a grandmother, I don't know."},{"start":127.81,"end":129.73,"text":"That's great."},{"start":130.01,"end":130.69,"text":"Are you in Michigan?"},{"start":132.4,"end":132.64,"text":"Yes, we are."},{"start":132.66,"end":133.26,"text":"Out at your home."},{"start":133.28,"end":133.8,"text":"That's nice."},{"start":136.08,"end":136.76,"text":"Which team?"},{"start":137.2,"end":142.51,"text":"Oh, no, you don't root for any today, do you?"},{"start":142.53,"end":143.21,"text":"I think I'll root for Kansas City."},{"start":143.43,"end":144.68,"text":"I'll be the Redskins tomorrow."},{"start":146.14,"end":146.6,"text":"That's right."},{"start":147.44,"end":148.32,"text":"I'm for the Redskins."},{"start":148.34,"end":148.54,"text":"All right."},{"start":148.56,"end":149.9,"text":"Merry Christmas to all of us."},{"start":149.92,"end":150.52,"text":"Merry Christmas."},{"start":150.7,"end":151.93,"text":"Merry Christmas."},{"start":152.21,"end":160.04,"text":"I know you've had some tough ones in that housing thing, but you really stood up on it, and I appreciate it."},{"start":160.06,"end":163.17,"text":"I'll tell you, Mr. President, I need to see you."},{"start":163.19,"end":165.05,"text":"I'm working with John early tomorrow."},{"start":165.19,"end":177.63,"text":"Well, you know, I have to go down to meet Ron right after Christmas, but if you could keep in touch with John and you can catch me coming or going, we'll be glad to work something in."},{"start":177.65,"end":178.79,"text":"Fine?"},{"start":178.81,"end":178.91,"text":"Good."},{"start":178.93,"end":180.07,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":181.84,"end":182,"text":"Goodbye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated a holiday phone call to George and Lenore Romney to exchange Christmas greetings and commend the recent television special featuring Julie Nixon Eisenhower. Beyond personal pleasantries, the discussion touched on the President's upcoming travel schedule to Florida to meet with Willy Brandt. Nixon also expressed appreciation for Romney's recent work on housing issues, prompting an agreement for Romney to coordinate a follow-up meeting with John Ehrlichman.","topics":["Christmas greetings","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","Housing policy","John Ehrlichman","Willy Brandt","Presidential schedule"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:47:31.538Z"},"topicSlugs":["christmas-greetings","julie-nixon-eisenhower","housing-policy","john-ehrlichman","willy-brandt","presidential-schedule"],"audioDurationSec":182,"audioFiles":[{"file":"017-064.mp3","bytes":4368508,"durationSec":181.97,"bitrate":192056,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.937Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/017-064.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/017-064","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/17/conversation-017-064","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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