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Conversation 017-093

TapeTape 17StartSaturday, December 25, 1971 at 11:49 AMEndSaturday, December 25, 1971 at 11:51 AMTape start time03:19:09Tape end time03:21:33ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Hodgson, James D.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On December 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and James D. Hodgson talked on the telephone from 11:49 am to 11:51 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 017-093 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 17-93

Date: December 25, 1971
Time: 11:49 am - 11:51 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with James D. Hodgson.

     Christmas greetings

     The President's location
           -Camp David
           -Mamie G.D. Eisenhower
     Julie Nixon Eisenhower's television show
           “Christmas at the White House”
           -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                -Praise

     Dock strike issue
         -Eisaku Sato meeting
         -J[ames] Curtis Counts

     James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
          -Public sympathy
          -Leonard Woodcock wire
                -Stand on Hoffa issue
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yeah.
Hello.
Jim just called to wish you a Merry Christmas.
I'm from the White House.
Oh, you're from the White House.
Oh, yeah.
I have to work, you know.
No, we have a family here.
And we have Mrs. Eisenhower here and her family.
With Julie.
Yeah.
I didn't see it, but Paula thought she was very good.
You liked it good.
Yeah.
Well, the kids are always the best.
Incidentally, I was wondering, that dock thing seemed to be pretty good news over the weekend.
Well, a good part of it was that we got it set down so that when you're being the prime minister's auto, you won't have to worry about the dock shutdown.
Yeah.
Well...
Yeah, I guess, well, we appreciate what you've done, you and Kurt and all the others on that thing.
Yeah, well, you know, with him, he, like most of us, doesn't have much of his world's good, but he'll do well when he finishes.
He'll be a valuable man to somebody.
That's what I've been telling him.
I said, now look here,
You can make money later.
That's good counsel.
Yeah, right.
Well, anyway, we hope it's a good year, and we do appreciate all your hard work.
Well, thank you, Mr. President, and the nation appreciates you.
Incidentally, I think we were, we're getting a little flack on it, but I think what we did on Hoffa was right.
The guy...
The guy really looked so terrible when he came out of prison and everything that I think people would be sympathetic with him, don't you?
That is if he does what he says he's going to do, and that's what we've got to make sure.
Well, we've got that as we throw him back in jail.
And it was interesting, did you know that, I suppose you did, of course, that Woodcock wired me saying it was a good idea?
In advance?
No, right afterwards.
He wired and said...
He wired and said that it was the right thing to do and that it was justice.
So I thought that was good.
Okay.
Well, bye.
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