{"conversationCode":"017-140","tapeNumber":17,"conversationNumber":140,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-017-140","startDateTime":"1972-01-02T17:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-02T17:28:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jan-1972","startTime":"12:24 PM","endDate":"2-Jan-1972","endTime":"12:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On January 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 12:24 pm to 12:28 pm. 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Buchanan\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 12/22/2017.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[017-140-w001]\n[Duration: 1m 28s]\n\n     The President’s election announcement\n          -H.R. Haldeman talk with John Mitchell\n               -Timing\n          -Restrictions on timing\n               -Letter\n               -Dan Rather interview\n\n     Maurice Stans announcement\n         -H.R. Haldeman talk with John Mitchell\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n     President's schedule\n           -President to meet with Gerard C. Smith, January 3\n           -President's luncheon with Jack Dreyfus, January 3\n           -President's meeting with John N. Mitchell\n           -Peter G. Peterson, George P. Shultz, Henry A. Kissinger, Clark MacGregor, John B\n            Connally","filename":["017-140.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:06:18","tapeEnd":"05:10:50","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"017-139","nextCode":"017-141","transcript":[{"start":1.45,"end":1.81,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.93,"end":2.99,"text":"I am Mr. Haldeman, sir."},{"start":4.03,"end":4.51,"text":"There you are."},{"start":4.53,"end":4.97,"text":"Yes, sir, hello."},{"start":5.65,"end":17.51,"text":"The one thing about arrangements tonight, I want to change the deal where Ron, or I guess it'll be Jerry Warren, they have all those photographers heard in afterwards, you know, for picture."},{"start":18.11,"end":19.17,"text":"We're not going to have that now."},{"start":19.25,"end":21.2,"text":"The way we're going to do it is to have Ali..."},{"start":21.51,"end":42.17,"text":"with two wires can come in before and take a shot okay and afterwards we'll leave that way they can make their earlier shows and all that sort of thing all right but there's no need to have that you know everybody tramping in afterwards and looking around and so forth and so on and that's to be the case always in the future incidentally i don't on any of these broadcasts and so forth i'm not going to have them come in afterwards"},{"start":42.47,"end":43.23,"text":"Okay, it's time."},{"start":43.41,"end":44.94,"text":"Have them come in five minutes before."},{"start":44.96,"end":47.36,"text":"They can shoot their pictures, put it on the wire, and it's that."},{"start":47.38,"end":49,"text":"Well, that's better for them anyway, of course."},{"start":49.02,"end":50.5,"text":"Sure, they make an earlier deadline."},{"start":50.84,"end":60.32,"text":"But the only thing that you're knocking out, Bob, which someone has to bring in 30 or 40 reporters to, you know, which all they want to do is to come in and look around."},{"start":60.4,"end":61.6,"text":"It's not a photo-op turn."},{"start":61.62,"end":63.6,"text":"You just have Ollie and the two wires."},{"start":63.88,"end":64.22,"text":"Okay."},{"start":64.54,"end":65.71,"text":"They come in and take a shot."},{"start":65.73,"end":66.01,"text":"Okay."},{"start":67.03,"end":67.59,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":67.63,"end":68.73,"text":"Anything else there today?"},{"start":69.15,"end":70.03,"text":"No, uh..."},{"start":70.45,"end":74.12,"text":"I haven't seen you, but Pat's putting together a late news summary for you."},{"start":74.16,"end":75.72,"text":"Yeah, I know he is."},{"start":75.74,"end":77.53,"text":"If you haven't got it, it'll be on its way over."},{"start":78.15,"end":78.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":78.73,"end":82.48,"text":"And he's on standby there if you want anything."},{"start":83.2,"end":83.42,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":84.44,"end":84.79,"text":"Okay."},{"start":85.43,"end":86.99,"text":"And back up and..."},{"start":176.04,"end":181.16,"text":"Tomorrow we, let's see, we've got that fellow Smith coming in, haven't we?"},{"start":181.34,"end":181.66,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":184.43,"end":189.09,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":189.11,"end":189.31,"text":"All right."},{"start":189.33,"end":190.81,"text":"And let's see, what else are there?"},{"start":193.34,"end":195.88,"text":"Anything other, other problems, anything tomorrow that we had?"},{"start":196.1,"end":197.66,"text":"We've got a couple odds and ends."},{"start":197.78,"end":198.14,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":198.16,"end":202.22,"text":"And then your luncheon with... Oh, Gryphis, that's right."},{"start":202.28,"end":202.91,"text":"Gryphis."},{"start":202.93,"end":203.87,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":204.34,"end":211.59,"text":"And I tentatively put the Attorney General tomorrow afternoon if you want to touch base with him before you head out."},{"start":212.61,"end":213.53,"text":"That's probably a good idea."},{"start":213.85,"end":215.18,"text":"I just thought it might be a good idea."},{"start":215.2,"end":215.84,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":216.64,"end":219.03,"text":"Get him out of the way."},{"start":222.85,"end":226.7,"text":"And for that matter, maybe because of Peterson's problem..."},{"start":227.35,"end":230.24,"text":"Better get him in with Schultz."},{"start":230.66,"end":232.06,"text":"That'd be a darn good idea."},{"start":232.08,"end":239.06,"text":"Henry, but I, as you understand, I've got to have him surrounded so that he doesn't, you see what I mean?"},{"start":239.32,"end":240.47,"text":"Okay, yeah."},{"start":240.53,"end":245.33,"text":"Because we've got to keep him from going off on another road than Connolly and others want to go."},{"start":245.51,"end":245.85,"text":"Okay."},{"start":246.55,"end":252.94,"text":"But I would say get Peterson and Kissinger and... Is McGregor around?"},{"start":253.3,"end":254.06,"text":"Yep."},{"start":254.08,"end":254.64,"text":"That'd be good."},{"start":254.68,"end":255.68,"text":"Let McGregor come in."},{"start":256.08,"end":256.18,"text":"Okay."},{"start":257.05,"end":263.87,"text":"Gregor and Schultz, so that we can decide not to do anything about that."},{"start":263.91,"end":265.15,"text":"In other words, just drag our feet."},{"start":265.19,"end":267.69,"text":"OK. We don't know what to do."},{"start":267.71,"end":270.22,"text":"OK."},{"start":270.7,"end":271.3,"text":"Very good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman coordinated media logistics for an upcoming television interview, deciding to restrict press access to a limited number of wire service photographers to avoid large groups of reporters. The two also reviewed the President's upcoming schedule, including meetings with Gerard C. Smith and Attorney General John Mitchell. 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