{"conversationCode":"017-154","tapeNumber":17,"conversationNumber":154,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-017-154","startDateTime":"1972-01-03T04:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-03T04:12:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Jan-1972","startTime":"11:11 PM","endDate":"2-Jan-1972","endTime":"11:12 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On January 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 11:11 pm to 11:12 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 017-154 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 17-154\n\nDate: January 2, 1972\nTime: 11:11 - 11:12 pm\nLocation: January 2, 1972\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n     Woods's location\n\n     Woods's schedule\n         -Phone calls from William P. Rogers and Donald H. Rumsfeld\n                    -Call from Woods\n                          -Reaction from the President’s interview with Dan Rather","filename":["017-154.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:55:47","tapeEnd":"05:56:35","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"017-153","nextCode":"017-155","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.69,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.95,"end":2.61,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.63,"end":3.62,"text":"You in bed?"},{"start":3.64,"end":4.24,"text":"No."},{"start":4.26,"end":4.72,"text":"Oh, no."},{"start":5.1,"end":7.34,"text":"No, I haven't even started the pack for tomorrow yet."},{"start":7.64,"end":8.62,"text":"Where are you?"},{"start":8.64,"end":9.08,"text":"I'm home."},{"start":10,"end":11.13,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":11.15,"end":18.86,"text":"But I've been listening to television and all sorts of things."},{"start":18.88,"end":25.93,"text":"And I didn't talk with either Bill Rogers or Don Rumsfeld, but they both called and left words with the operators."},{"start":25.95,"end":27.05,"text":"They just wanted to leave words."},{"start":27.07,"end":27.71,"text":"They called."},{"start":28.67,"end":29.65,"text":"Call them back, will you?"},{"start":30.24,"end":31.54,"text":"Okay."},{"start":31.56,"end":32.73,"text":"And ask them what they thought?"},{"start":32.75,"end":33.67,"text":"Yeah, I want to know."},{"start":34.05,"end":35.58,"text":"Okay."},{"start":35.6,"end":38.83,"text":"You see, I've left all the calls with you because I'm not talking to people, Rose."},{"start":39.67,"end":41.28,"text":"All right, I will."},{"start":41.3,"end":41.52,"text":"All right."},{"start":41.6,"end":41.7,"text":"Okay."},{"start":41.72,"end":47.74,"text":"And then call me back in 15 minutes."},{"start":47.76,"end":47.96,"text":"All right."},{"start":47.98,"end":48.06,"text":"Bye."},{"start":48.08,"end":48.28,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to contact William P. Rogers and Donald Rumsfeld to gauge their reactions to his recent television interview with Dan Rather. Nixon explains that he is isolating himself from direct communication with staff and relies on Woods to serve as a conduit for their feedback. He tasks Woods with gathering their impressions and reporting back to him within fifteen minutes.","topics":["Richard Nixon","Rose Mary Woods","Dan Rather interview","Public relations","White House communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T00:55:48.932Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-nixon","rose-mary-woods","dan-rather-interview","public-relations","white-house-communications"],"audioDurationSec":48,"audioFiles":[{"file":"017-154.mp3","bytes":1159208,"durationSec":48.24,"bitrate":192240,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.936Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/017-154.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/017-154","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/17/conversation-017-154","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}