{"conversationCode":"018-042","tapeNumber":18,"conversationNumber":42,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-018-042","startDateTime":"1972-01-10T20:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-10T20:42:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jan-1972","startTime":"3:34 PM","endDate":"10-Jan-1972","endTime":"3:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Graham, William F. (\"Billy\");","description":"On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and William F. (\"Billy\") Graham talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 3:42 pm. 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Graham","filename":["018-042.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:22:45","tapeEnd":"01:23:53","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Graham, William F. (\"Billy\")"],"prevCode":"018-041","nextCode":"018-043","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.06,"text":"I have Dr. Graham now, sir."},{"start":2.1,"end":3.58,"text":"I'm sorry that happened."},{"start":3.64,"end":4.92,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":4.94,"end":7.11,"text":"Yeah, that connection with Camille Bay, as you know."},{"start":7.29,"end":8.85,"text":"Telephone people working on this."},{"start":8.87,"end":9.81,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":9.84,"end":11,"text":"It is always difficult."},{"start":11.02,"end":16.15,"text":"But all I just wanted to be sure is that you felt a good idea for Tarbert to come in the event that..."},{"start":16.13,"end":20.58,"text":"He comes to prayer breakfast, and I just have a little dinner, have a dinner for him that night, you see."},{"start":20.6,"end":25.97,"text":"Well, that'll be just fine, but I don't think you have to do that if you don't want to this early, maybe next summer sometime."},{"start":26.43,"end":32.03,"text":"Well, my point was it might be easier to do it now in that connection and not have it too long a visit, see?"},{"start":32.01,"end":34.98,"text":"Right, I don't... Because it's a small country."},{"start":35.3,"end":37.28,"text":"I don't think you ought to have a state visit for him."},{"start":37.3,"end":38.7,"text":"No, not at this point, no."},{"start":38.93,"end":43.34,"text":"No, we can't have any this year because of our other heavy commitments."},{"start":43.78,"end":45.14,"text":"But all right, I've got your message."},{"start":45.16,"end":45.62,"text":"I've got that."},{"start":45.8,"end":47.75,"text":"I don't think you need to worry about that at all."},{"start":48.09,"end":49.09,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":49.07,"end":52.66,"text":"And anything I can do for you, have somebody call me."},{"start":52.85,"end":53.12,"text":"I will."},{"start":53.18,"end":58.04,"text":"Incidentally, there's a very good piece Bob Haldeman brought over in time this week on the trip."},{"start":58.06,"end":58.82,"text":"You'll want to pick it up."},{"start":59,"end":59.56,"text":"Oh, good."},{"start":59.69,"end":60.12,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.23,"end":61.35,"text":"Okay."},{"start":61.39,"end":63.15,"text":"Now you enjoy that wonderful place, will you?"},{"start":63.29,"end":64.01,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":64.07,"end":64.91,"text":"And thank you for calling."},{"start":64.93,"end":66.35,"text":"Give my best to Ruth."},{"start":66.37,"end":67.14,"text":"All right."},{"start":67.23,"end":67.31,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Reverend Billy Graham discussed the logistical arrangements and appropriate diplomatic protocol for an upcoming visit by Liberian President William R. Tolbert, Jr. Nixon expressed concerns about the timing and scale of the visit, ultimately deciding against a full state visit due to heavy administrative commitments. The two also briefly touched upon a recent positive article concerning Graham’s travels as highlighted by H.R. Haldeman.","topics":["William R. Tolbert Jr.","Diplomatic protocol","State visits","Liberia","Billy Graham","H.R. 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