{"conversationCode":"018-056","tapeNumber":18,"conversationNumber":56,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-018-056","startDateTime":"1972-01-10T22:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-10T22:36:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jan-1972","startTime":"5:35 PM","endDate":"10-Jan-1972","endTime":"5:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scali, John A.;","description":"On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John A. Scali talked on the telephone from 5:35 pm to 5:36 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 018-056 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 18-56\n\nDate: January 10, 1972\nTime: 5:35 pm - 5:36 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with John A. Scali.\n\n[See Conversation No. 313-30C]\n\n     Trip to the People's Republic of China [PRC]\n           -Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Scali, Ronald L. Ziegler\n           -The President’s forthcoming trip to the PRC\n           -Value","filename":["018-056.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:01:25","tapeEnd":"02:02:06","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Scali, John A."],"prevCode":"018-055","nextCode":"018-057","transcript":[{"start":1.03,"end":1.73,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.93,"end":3.39,"text":"Mr. Scali, Mr. President."},{"start":3.41,"end":3.65,"text":"Hello."},{"start":3.99,"end":5.03,"text":"Yes, Mr. President."},{"start":5.05,"end":14.09,"text":"I was just sitting here with Al, and I said to him that you and he and Ziegler now must realize that coming to the White House isn't as worth it after all."},{"start":14.51,"end":15.83,"text":"Well, it was a great experience."},{"start":15.95,"end":17.11,"text":"Wasn't it really something?"},{"start":17.45,"end":18.28,"text":"Yes, it was."},{"start":18.26,"end":24.28,"text":"The best part was knowing that it is a well-prepared year for a forthcoming visit here, sir."},{"start":24.3,"end":24.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":24.7,"end":26.39,"text":"Was it useful, you think, for you to go out?"},{"start":26.41,"end":26.95,"text":"I thought it was."},{"start":27.11,"end":28.89,"text":"Oh, I thought it was enormously useful."},{"start":29.07,"end":29.17,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":29.19,"end":32.44,"text":"And you got a good feel of them and us and what we're going to do and so forth."},{"start":32.88,"end":34.4,"text":"And I'm very encouraged."},{"start":35.24,"end":36.4,"text":"Well, get home and get a little sleep."},{"start":37.5,"end":37.98,"text":"Will do."},{"start":38.24,"end":40.15,"text":"All right, John."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with John A. Scali regarding the utility of Scali’s recent preparatory mission for the President’s upcoming trip to the People's Republic of China. Scali, alongside Alexander Haig and Ronald Ziegler, confirmed that the experience was highly productive and provided essential insights into the diplomatic landscape. The President expressed satisfaction with the progress made in organizing the visit and encouraged Scali to rest following his return.","topics":["People's Republic of China","Diplomatic relations","Alexander Haig","Foreign policy","Presidential travel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T01:02:17.781Z"},"topicSlugs":["peoples-republic-of-china","diplomatic-relations","alexander-haig","foreign-policy","presidential-travel"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"018-056.mp3","bytes":981158,"durationSec":40.8,"bitrate":192368,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.937Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/018-056.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/018-056","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/18/conversation-018-056","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}