Nixon White House TapesTape 18 › Conversation 018-080

Nixon phone call with Ziegler on Vietnam War and Press relations

Thursday, January 13, 1972 · 2:45 PM–2:47 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation018-080 on Tape 18 (tape position 03:48:15–03:50:00)StartThursday, January 13, 1972 at 2:45 PMEndThursday, January 13, 1972 at 2:47 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 018-080 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler discuss the media reception of the latest U.S. troop withdrawal announcement and accompanying favorable coverage regarding the President's birthday and his recent meeting with Alexandria schoolchildren. They evaluate how the press is handling the Vietnam withdrawal announcement alongside related supplemental stories and intelligence concerning Soviet activity in the region. Nixon explicitly directs Ziegler to ensure that photographs of the school children are prominently featured in local newspapers.

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Hello.
Yes, sir.
Well, how is the press handling the news today?
Well, of course, the announcement is a lead thing, but they're moving sidebar stories on the kids and the birthday thing.
Right.
I mean, but as far as the announcement, that's what I was calling about.
Are they doing it well?
Oh, yes, sir.
They're playing it straight.
They're moving, of course, with your lead on the announcement of the new levels and the reduction.
Go into your remarks, and then they pick up on the Laird material.
Yeah.
Hilarity material pointing out that we expect some bombshells.
The speculation, I mean, the spectaculars and so forth, yes.
It's playing in basically the scenario I gave it to you earlier.
Playing, all right.
Yes, sir.
In your opinion.
All right.
We're getting pictures taken of the Soviets over there.
Good.
So that'll be a nice story.
I want that out.
They're interested in that, aren't they?
Well, we're turning up interest.
The vice president is doing something with the attorney general, so we're having to grab him off from that.
But I think we'll force something out of it.
It's hard to break through your announcement today, you see.
Oh, I understand.
Well, just see that somebody...
But there are CBSes over there now.
Oh, yes, we have.
Oh, yes, we've got the wires there.
It's very well covered, yes.
And give it the tasks and things like that.
Second point...
With regard to the kids, they're going to run a little story on that, though.
Sure they will.
The wires are already moving something.
The press were very excited about it.
They thought it was great.
They got a little picture.
Oh, sure.
And your comments and so forth were very good reading the poetry.
I want to be sure that the kids, the main thing is that they see their picture in the paper.
Right.
We're going to call the Alexandria paper just to make sure.
All right.
Fine.
Okay, sir.
All right.

On January 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 2:45 pm to 2:47 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 018-080 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 18-80

Date: January 13, 1972
Time: 2:45 pm - 2:47 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 314-1D]

     Press relations
           -Announcement of US troop withdrawals from Vietnam
           -The President’s recent meeting with Alexandria, Virginia school children
           -The President’s birthday
           -Troop withdrawal announcement
                 -Press handling
                 -Melvin R. Laird
           -Soviets in Vietnam
                 -Photographs
                 -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                       -John N. Mitchell
                 -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                 -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
                 -TASS

          -The President’s meeting with schoolchildren
               -Photograph
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  • 018-077 2:34 PM · 1 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:34 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 314-001 2:34 PM · 1 hr 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, James D. ("Don") Hughes, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:34 pm to 3:41 pm.
  • 018-078 2:45 PM · 46 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and James D. ("Don") Hughes talked on the telephone at 2:45 pm.
  • 018-079 2:45 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:45 pm.
  • 018-081 2:47 PM · 2 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and James D. ("Don") Hughes talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:09 pm.
  • 018-082 2:47 PM · 1 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and James D. ("Don") Hughes talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:09 pm.
  • 018-083 2:47 PM · 1 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:09 pm.

Conversation 018-080, January 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/018-080 (accessed September 24, 2026).