{"conversationCode":"018-082","tapeNumber":18,"conversationNumber":82,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-018-082","startDateTime":"1972-01-13T19:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-13T20:09:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jan-1972","startTime":"2:47 PM","endDate":"13-Jan-1972","endTime":"3:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); White House operator; Hughes, James D. (\"Don\");","description":"On January 13, 1972, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, White House operator, and James D. (\"Don\") Hughes talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:09 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 018-082 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 18-82\n\nDate: January 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 2:47 pm and 3:09 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nH. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 314-1F]\n\n     Request for a call to Maj. Gen. James D. Hughes\n\nHaldeman talked with Hughes.\n\n     The President's plans to go to Camp David\n          -Transportation mode\n\n           -Best time to go\n                 -Thurmont, Maryland\n           -Weather prediction","filename":["018-082.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:51:45","tapeEnd":"03:52:58","participantsList":["Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","White House operator","Hughes, James D. (\"Don\")"],"prevCode":"018-081","nextCode":"018-083","transcript":[{"start":1.13,"end":29.59,"text":"General Hughes please."},{"start":29.61,"end":29.89,"text":"There you are."},{"start":30.32,"end":38.6,"text":"What he's going to do is set a time now and leave at that time, either by helicopter or car, depending on whether the thing is open."},{"start":38.64,"end":41.86,"text":"Now, the question is, is 4 or 4.30 a better time to set?"},{"start":44.59,"end":45.25,"text":"I'd set 4."},{"start":45.51,"end":48.38,"text":"Because if thermon opens, it'll close back in again."},{"start":48.4,"end":49.14,"text":"Yeah, that's right."},{"start":49.22,"end":51.7,"text":"And also, that gives them a better time to start for driving, too."},{"start":51.72,"end":52.48,"text":"I mean, rather than..."},{"start":53.1,"end":54.91,"text":"and try to check and guess it."},{"start":54.93,"end":57.95,"text":"I'd say 4 o'clock because that's when it's forecast to be acceptable."},{"start":57.97,"end":60.36,"text":"They should open and you'd know it here at 4 o'clock."},{"start":60.38,"end":62,"text":"Yes, because we could leave by chopper."},{"start":62.04,"end":62.4,"text":"That's right."},{"start":62.42,"end":64.34,"text":"We've got our helicopter up there now, you see."},{"start":64.44,"end":65.05,"text":"It's on its way."},{"start":65.21,"end":67.89,"text":"And if not, we'll go by car."},{"start":68.05,"end":70.18,"text":"So 4 gives you that much of a..."},{"start":70.24,"end":70.52,"text":"Okay."},{"start":70.54,"end":71.4,"text":"And that's for sure?"},{"start":71.62,"end":71.92,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":72.02,"end":72.4,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":72.5,"end":73,"text":"Right on."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"H. R. Haldeman coordinates with Maj. Gen. James D. Hughes to finalize the logistics for President Nixon’s upcoming trip to Camp David. They determine 4:00 p.m. as the optimal departure time, balancing weather forecasts for Thurmont, Maryland, and the status of helicopter availability. The pair establishes a contingency plan to travel by car if adverse weather conditions prevent air travel.","topics":["Camp David","Logistics","Transportation","Weather","Presidential travel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T01:04:41.379Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","logistics","transportation","weather","presidential-travel"],"audioDurationSec":73,"audioFiles":[{"file":"018-082.mp3","bytes":1757935,"durationSec":73.19,"bitrate":192160,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.937Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/018-082.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/018-082","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/18/conversation-018-082","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}