{"conversationCode":"018-083","tapeNumber":18,"conversationNumber":83,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-018-083","startDateTime":"1972-01-13T19:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-13T20:09:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jan-1972","startTime":"2:47 PM","endDate":"13-Jan-1972","endTime":"3:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 13, 1972, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:09 pm. 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Kissinger\n\n[End of conferral]\n\nHaldeman talked with Bull.\n\n     The President's departure for Camp David\n          -First Family\n          -Time\n          -Transportation mode\n                -Helicopter, car\n                      -Thurmont, Maryland\n          -Alternatives\n\n     Haldeman, Rose Mary Woods, Marjorie P. Acker\n          -Plans","filename":["018-083.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:52:58","tapeEnd":"03:54:18","participantsList":["Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","White House operator","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"018-082","nextCode":"018-084","transcript":[{"start":8.18,"end":9.26,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":9.28,"end":10.02,"text":"Steve Bowe, please."},{"start":11.03,"end":11.27,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":14.85,"end":16.17,"text":"You're absolutely right."},{"start":16.19,"end":16.85,"text":"I should be."},{"start":17.15,"end":20.77,"text":"I think, yeah."},{"start":20.8,"end":21.14,"text":"Steve?"},{"start":21.22,"end":21.52,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":22.6,"end":28.36,"text":"The change in signals, the president will leave and the family should be notified at 4 o'clock."},{"start":28.8,"end":29.77,"text":"Leave at 4, okay."},{"start":29.79,"end":32.15,"text":"As planned, either by helicopter or car."},{"start":33.31,"end":33.83,"text":"Okay."},{"start":33.97,"end":39.62,"text":"Hughes says that Thurmont is scheduled to lift at 4 o'clock, so if it has, he's got a chopper up there."},{"start":39.68,"end":44.22,"text":"If it has, they'll leave from helicopter here and chopper to Thurmont and then drive up the hill."},{"start":46.37,"end":46.85,"text":"Okay."},{"start":47.09,"end":49.25,"text":"So they can send a Camp David car down to Thurmont."},{"start":50.47,"end":51.27,"text":"Okay."},{"start":51.55,"end":56,"text":"And if it's not clear at 4 o'clock at Thurmont, then they'll leave by car from here."},{"start":56.76,"end":57.18,"text":"Okay."},{"start":57.2,"end":57.72,"text":"And drive up."},{"start":58.06,"end":58.99,"text":"Are you still going yourself?"},{"start":59.17,"end":59.35,"text":"No."},{"start":59.97,"end":62.69,"text":"But Rose and Marge are going?"},{"start":63.06,"end":64.04,"text":"Rose and March going."},{"start":64.28,"end":64.7,"text":"Is that right?"},{"start":66.01,"end":66.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":66.85,"end":67.09,"text":"Right."},{"start":67.33,"end":67.63,"text":"Okay."},{"start":67.97,"end":69.86,"text":"So set them and tell them over at the house."},{"start":70.26,"end":70.92,"text":"Okay."},{"start":71.4,"end":73.91,"text":"And then set your car up as an alternate for the chopper."},{"start":74.19,"end":74.97,"text":"I've talked with Hughes."},{"start":74.99,"end":77.11,"text":"He knows this, so you can confirm that back to him."},{"start":77.41,"end":77.72,"text":"Okay."},{"start":77.73,"end":78.08,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":78.2,"end":78.56,"text":"Okay."},{"start":78.58,"end":79.18,"text":"Right back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"H. R. Haldeman coordinates with Stephen B. Bull regarding logistical plans for the President’s travel to Camp David. The discussion focuses on determining the mode of transportation—helicopter or car—based on weather conditions at the destination in Thurmont, Maryland. Haldeman also confirms that Rose Mary Woods and Marjorie P. Acker are scheduled to accompany the President's party and instructs Bull to relay these arrangements to the relevant staff.","topics":["Camp David","Presidential travel","Logistics","Helicopter transport","White House scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T01:04:47.464Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","presidential-travel","logistics","helicopter-transport","white-house-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":80,"audioFiles":[{"file":"018-083.mp3","bytes":1920939,"durationSec":79.98,"bitrate":192130,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.938Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/018-083.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/018-083","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/18/conversation-018-083","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}