{"conversationCode":"019-048","tapeNumber":19,"conversationNumber":48,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-019-048","startDateTime":"1972-01-24T20:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-24T20:38:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Jan-1972","startTime":"3:36 PM","endDate":"24-Jan-1972","endTime":"3:38 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bow, Frank T.;","description":"On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Frank T. Bow talked on the telephone from 3:36 pm to 3:38 pm. 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Cederburg\n               -Congressional committee\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 31s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO.1\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n           -The President's schedule\n                -Bahamas\n\n     Bow’s schedule\n         -Key Biscayne\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Walker’s Cay","filename":["019-048.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bow, Frank T."],"prevCode":"019-047","nextCode":"019-049","transcript":[{"start":0.47,"end":1.35,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.39,"end":3.52,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":5.17,"end":12.39,"text":"Well, Frank, you know, I knew that we had to expect this sometime, but I just wanted you to know that I was so..."},{"start":12.77,"end":21.16,"text":"Sorry to see your decision, but I respect it and can't tell you how much we've appreciated your service to this country and to our party."},{"start":21.26,"end":21.96,"text":"Thanks, Mr. President."},{"start":21.98,"end":22.58,"text":"I appreciate that."},{"start":22.6,"end":24.17,"text":"And, of course, I'll be with you this year."},{"start":24.41,"end":25.37,"text":"Well, that's the main thing."},{"start":25.39,"end":26.49,"text":"You'll be here this year."},{"start":26.99,"end":30.01,"text":"You'll be here this year, and I hope you will pick a good man to succeed."},{"start":30.03,"end":31.52,"text":"Who's the next ranking?"},{"start":33.08,"end":34.04,"text":"Cederberg will come up."},{"start":34.9,"end":35.68,"text":"Well, he's a good man."},{"start":36.26,"end":37.04,"text":"Yeah, he'll do a good job."},{"start":37.12,"end":37.74,"text":"From Michigan."},{"start":37.76,"end":39.6,"text":"I'm going to work with him a good bit this year."},{"start":39.62,"end":40.33,"text":"Good, good."},{"start":40.37,"end":40.69,"text":"And then..."},{"start":71.38,"end":73.32,"text":"Well, I'm delighted to call, Mr. President."},{"start":73.38,"end":83.67,"text":"Well, I learned, I was out of touch on a phone in the Bahamas when I learned of it, so I couldn't call you over the weekend, but I just wanted to reach you when I got back today."},{"start":83.69,"end":84.99,"text":"Well, it's beautiful down here today."},{"start":85.49,"end":85.67,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":85.69,"end":86.59,"text":"I'm going to keep this game now."},{"start":86.61,"end":87.14,"text":"You are?"},{"start":87.38,"end":87.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":87.78,"end":88.64,"text":"Oh, my gosh."},{"start":89.4,"end":90.86,"text":"Well, I went over to Walker's."},{"start":91.1,"end":91.94,"text":"I was over at Walker's."},{"start":92.54,"end":93.34,"text":"But it cleaned up."},{"start":93.54,"end":93.9,"text":"Well, good."},{"start":93.92,"end":94.62,"text":"I hope you're on your..."},{"start":94.64,"end":99.21,"text":"I'll switch all this year, and then maybe you'll find something for me to do up there that's not so strenuous."},{"start":99.19,"end":99.71,"text":"I will."},{"start":99.88,"end":100.62,"text":"Oh, absolutely."},{"start":100.64,"end":101.37,"text":"Whatever you want."},{"start":101.55,"end":101.94,"text":"You bet."},{"start":102.1,"end":102.36,"text":"Okay."},{"start":102.48,"end":103.19,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Congressman Frank T. Bow to express his regret and appreciation upon learning of Bow's decision to retire from Congress. During the brief discussion, they touched upon Bow's successor, Elford A. Cederberg, whom both men agreed would be a capable replacement. The President also inquired about Bow's upcoming plans, expressing his willingness to find a less strenuous role for the Congressman within the administration after his final term.","topics":["Frank T. Bow","Congressional retirement","Elford A. 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