Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 19 › Conversation 019-069

Nixon, Kissinger & Haig on Vietnam War and Foreign Policy

Tuesday, January 25, 1972 · 8:55 PM–10:03 PM ET · White House Telephone · 3 min

ParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.; White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Marshall, Michael M.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Conversation019-069 on Tape 19StartTuesday, January 25, 1972 at 8:55 PMEndTuesday, January 25, 1972 at 10:03 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 019-069 ↗

Henry Kissinger coordinated with Alexander Haig to gauge the domestic and international reactions to President Nixon’s recent speech on Vietnam. The pair discussed positive feedback from various officials, including George H.W. Bush, and noted Soviet Ambassador Anatoliy Dobrynin's distress over the administration's actions. Kissinger concluded the call by instructing Haig to have Winston Lord draft two urgent cables regarding the situation.

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Well, if those 40% are your 40%, it's Mr. Kissinger getting in my office.
Thank you.
Hello?
Who is it?
This is Mr. Kissinger.
Is Haig there?
Are there any calls?
That's my question.
Yes, Marty Schramm called and Bob Haldeman is trying to call.
I got that.
Anything else?
Let me talk to Haig.
Oh, yes.
Hello?
Al?
Yes, sir.
I just wanted to check up with the president, how the reactions are going.
I think very good.
Everyone is extremely enthusiastic about the way it's going.
George Bush called me down on the airplane.
He said it was just an absolute mess.
Right, right.
I haven't talked to anybody here yet.
Well, Dobrynin was calling.
He just wouldn't stop crying.
Really?
Yeah, he said, why did you do it now?
I sent an urgent cable to Hanoi after our conversation on Friday.
I said, well, you've sent urgent cables before.
Right.
As John Scallery says, he's got about a 92% origin of the crash.
Good.
Well, I'm not going to be that much ahead.
Oh, really?
Well, but he's an enemy.
Well, I'll be over in about 15 minutes.
Get Winston to do those two cables, will you?
Okay, good.
Thank you.

On January 25, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, Michael M. Marshall, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 019-069 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 19-69

Date: January 25, 1972
Time: Unknown between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Henry A. Kissinger talked with the White House operator; the President can be heard in the
background.

     Request for a call to his office

Kissinger talked with Mildred M. Marshall.

     Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s location

     Telephone calls

            -Martin Schram, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     Haig

Kissinger talked with Haig.

     The President's previous speech on Vietnam
          -Reaction
               -George H.W. Bush's call to Haig
                      -United Nations [UN]
          -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin's call to Kissinger
          -Press
               -John A. Scali's view
               -Networks
                      -Leslie H. Gelb on Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]

     Cables
          -Winston Lord
  • 019-064 8:55 PM · 15 sec — Henry A. Kissinger, President Richard M. Nixon, and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 9:21 pm.
  • 019-065 8:55 PM · 8 min — Henry A. Kissinger and Anatoliy F. Dobrynin talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm.
  • 019-066 8:55 PM · 9 sec — the White House operator and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm.
  • 019-067 8:55 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm.
  • 019-068 8:55 PM · 18 sec — the White House operator and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm.
  • 019-070 8:55 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm.
  • 019-071 8:55 PM · 2 min — Henry A. Kissinger and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm.
  • 019-072 8:55 PM · 9 sec — Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm.

Conversation 019-069, January 26, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/019-069 (accessed October 12, 2026).