{"conversationCode":"019-075","tapeNumber":19,"conversationNumber":75,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-019-075","startDateTime":"1972-01-26T01:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-26T03:03:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jan-1972","startTime":"8:55 PM","endDate":"25-Jan-1972","endTime":"10:03 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; White House operator;","description":"On January 25, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 019-075 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 19-75\n\nDate: January 25, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:55 pm and 10:03 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Call to John A. Scali\n\n     Request for a call to William P. Rogers","filename":["019-075.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"019-074","nextCode":"019-076","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":9.23,"text":"If you have trouble with Scali, get me Rogers."},{"start":9.77,"end":9.95,"text":"Rogers?"},{"start":9.97,"end":11.17,"text":"The Secretary of State."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger directed the White House operator to facilitate urgent communications regarding ongoing diplomatic efforts. He requested a call to journalist John A. Scali, specifying that Secretary of State William P. Rogers should be contacted instead if Scali proved unavailable. This instruction underscores Kissinger’s intent to manage external messaging or gather information through both media and official State Department channels.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","William P. Rogers","John A. Scali","Diplomacy","Communication logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T01:41:55.177Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","william-p-rogers","john-a-scali","diplomacy","communication-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"019-075.mp3","bytes":369892,"durationSec":15.34,"bitrate":192899,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.938Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/019-075.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/019-075","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/19/conversation-019-075","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}