{"conversationCode":"019-145","tapeNumber":19,"conversationNumber":145,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-019-145","startDateTime":"1972-01-27T20:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-27T20:07:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Jan-1972","startTime":"3:07 PM","endDate":"27-Jan-1972","endTime":"3:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On January 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:07 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 019-145 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 19-145\n\nDate: January 27, 1972\nTime: 3:07 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 658-29]\n\n     George P. Shultz's location","filename":["019-145.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"019-144","nextCode":"019-146","transcript":[{"start":0.1,"end":1.7,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.72,"end":3.87,"text":"Mr. President, Mr. Schultz is testifying on the hill."},{"start":3.89,"end":5.31,"text":"He'll be back in the office about 4."},{"start":5.7,"end":7.32,"text":"Should I try to locate him, or...?"},{"start":7.54,"end":9.77,"text":"Oh, uh, no, not necessary."},{"start":10.67,"end":11.81,"text":"I'll handle it another way, thank you."},{"start":11.89,"end":12.34,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon received an update from the White House operator regarding the location of Office of Management and Budget Director George P. Shultz, who was currently testifying on Capitol Hill. Upon learning that Shultz would not return until late afternoon, the President declined the offer to track him down. Nixon decided to pursue an alternative method for handling the matter instead of waiting for Shultz's return.","topics":["George P. Shultz","Office of Management and Budget","Congressional testimony","Administrative operations","Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T01:48:20.817Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-p-shultz","office-of-management-and-budget","congressional-testimony","administrative-operations","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"019-145.mp3","bytes":330395,"durationSec":13.71,"bitrate":192783,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:24.938Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/019-145.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/019-145","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/19/conversation-019-145","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}