{"conversationCode":"019-149","tapeNumber":19,"conversationNumber":149,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-019-149","startDateTime":"1972-01-28T22:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-28T22:25:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Jan-1972","startTime":"5:23 PM","endDate":"28-Jan-1972","endTime":"5:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On January 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 5:23 pm to 5:25 pm. 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Kissinger\n                -Woods\n                -Prisoners of war [POWs] wives briefing\n\n                     -Roosevelt Room\n          -Maj. Gen. James D. (“Don”) and Betty Hughes","filename":["019-149.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"019-148","nextCode":"019-150","transcript":[{"start":1.18,"end":3.1,"text":"Hi, Rose."},{"start":3.32,"end":3.64,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.66,"end":6.55,"text":"I was wondering, did you get any added starters?"},{"start":6.59,"end":10.89,"text":"Yes, I got Secretary Mrs. Rogers and Marge Klein."},{"start":11.19,"end":11.55,"text":"Great."},{"start":11.93,"end":17.8,"text":"And I will know probably around 5.30 about the layers, because they really wanted to come."},{"start":17.86,"end":19.8,"text":"We're going to have to cancel something."},{"start":19.82,"end":20.34,"text":"Great."},{"start":20.36,"end":21.09,"text":"It was good to invite you."},{"start":21.11,"end":21.25,"text":"Yes."},{"start":21.27,"end":24.43,"text":"And the margins are out of town, but we're..."},{"start":24.45,"end":24.99,"text":"Appreciate it."},{"start":25.14,"end":31.01,"text":"Yeah, the girl said she knew they would appreciate it, because I told them that we could only ask people we felt were family."},{"start":31.03,"end":34.15,"text":"You know, you stopped today, it would be nice."},{"start":34.17,"end":39.84,"text":"And Dole has to be in Kansas for a Kansas day or something, so he's fine."},{"start":39.86,"end":54.22,"text":"I thought of one thing, and I hadn't thought, you know, we're not having to ask people who didn't know that, but it just seemed to me that because it probably was celebrity value that you might ask Henry to come."},{"start":54.77,"end":55.33,"text":"Okay."},{"start":56.45,"end":59.28,"text":"And have him come with you."},{"start":59.36,"end":59.78,"text":"All right."},{"start":59.8,"end":62.22,"text":"Anyway, it evens out the number."},{"start":62.24,"end":63.12,"text":"Would you mind asking?"},{"start":63.18,"end":68.43,"text":"He's briefing the POW wives now."},{"start":68.45,"end":69.59,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":69.73,"end":71.59,"text":"I'll tell you somebody you could invite."},{"start":72.43,"end":75.47,"text":"Invite the users."},{"start":75.49,"end":75.59,"text":"Okay."},{"start":75.61,"end":77.29,"text":"If they can come and see."},{"start":77.31,"end":78.83,"text":"You know, if she can get ready."},{"start":78.86,"end":79.03,"text":"If she?"},{"start":79.06,"end":79.62,"text":"Yes, right."},{"start":79.84,"end":81.46,"text":"But if they'd like, they could come."},{"start":81.56,"end":81.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":81.78,"end":81.88,"text":"Okay."},{"start":82.63,"end":83.48,"text":"Okay, well, that's nice."},{"start":83.54,"end":84.58,"text":"I think it was a good idea."},{"start":84.6,"end":86.04,"text":"Rogers probably was delighted."},{"start":86.14,"end":89.31,"text":"I'm sure they were, because they answered right away, yes."},{"start":89.33,"end":90.8,"text":"I'm sure they were."},{"start":90.82,"end":95.57,"text":"And I'll ask Don and Betty, and I'll see if Henry can talk."},{"start":95.59,"end":97.07,"text":"Don't you agree that Henry would add to it?"},{"start":97.17,"end":99.68,"text":"Oh, yeah, because everybody likes to talk to him."},{"start":99.7,"end":99.94,"text":"Good."},{"start":100.46,"end":101.03,"text":"All right."},{"start":101.05,"end":101.33,"text":"I'll see."},{"start":101.35,"end":103.59,"text":"I'll ask his girl if he's busy, but then I'll ask him."},{"start":103.61,"end":104.58,"text":"He might change it anyway."},{"start":104.8,"end":105.08,"text":"Sure."},{"start":105.18,"end":105.62,"text":"Okay."},{"start":106.62,"end":106.7,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the guest list for an upcoming dinner hosted by DeWitt and Lila Acheson Wallace. 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