Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 019-178
Date: Sunday, January 30, 1972 at 5:26 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/019-178
National Archives Catalog: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417192675 (NAID 417192675)

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[0:00] Oh, George, I didn't get a chance to see it, but Chuck Colson just called me and said you just did a hell of a job on that program.
[0:10] So I thought you should know that he thought particularly you cut up old Daniel Shore very well, which was good.
[0:19] Oh, sure, sure.
[0:19] Well, you should feel good about it.
[0:24] Did you enjoy the show or not?
[0:26] That's right.
[0:28] You're used to bargaining.
[0:35] Right.
[0:35] But we really have, you know.
[0:43] You know, the significant thing about the leading indicators to me was the
[0:46] figure of that drop in insured unemployment.
[1:08] I don't know whether that means anything, but the drop of 40,000 is the lowest level apparently since June of 70, so I don't know.
[1:11] That's bound to reflect itself eventually in the other figures, is it not?
[1:12] Well, look, I'm
[1:13] I'm doing some things in the Mike's environment that I trust will help, but I've got another little note to Arthur.
[1:35] He doesn't know anybody that anybody else knows about it, but it's very strong.
[1:37] It's only for whatever good that does.
[1:38] I'm not sure Arthur, though, I think he may not be able to control it as much.
[1:39] I don't know.
[1:39] What do you think?
[1:40] Well, I thought that on that meeting, it wasn't fair.
[1:41] Yeah.
[1:41] Admitted that...
[1:41] They're the best at fishing.
[1:46] Well, that just kept going on until the old theory that there's still a lot of steam in the boiler, you know, and it's bound to show up.
[2:06] And also, as we know,
[2:07] We live and die too much by monthly figures.
[2:34] I'm convinced of that.
[2:34] Don't you think so?
[2:35] Yes, sir.
[2:35] I thought that...
[2:36] Marina Whitman got a good flight on first in the post.
[2:49] She's intelligent.
[2:49] She's articulate.
[2:50] She's pretty.
[2:50] All that, you know, she'll be a good... We now have three people on the council.
[2:52] All of them can, you know, speak out.
[3:02] Good.
[3:03] Well, okay.
[3:03] Get a little rest.